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I tell them you have to enjoy it to do it. :)

I think two different things are being discussed here. One is when using a whizzy to fall a tree away from it's lean, and another to have the whizzy come into effect and alter the direction of the fall different from the gun, at some midpoint during the fall.

The most success I have had with a whizzy was with Black Acacia, a notably excellent bending wood. I use it for bending chair backs, and some boat builders using local woods like it for the ribs. Bends but doesn't break up to a certain point. Stig's Beech should suit the technique very well...

Only counter lean? I thought a whizzy could give you added swing in one direction, going into effect partly trough a fall, and a slightly different direction from where the face is gunned to? I've seen the most successful whizzy work that way, with a sudden change in the direction of fall as...

Beech is one of the most consistent grained woods that I know of. Also excellent flexibility, and I would imagine that wet Beech is particularly so. Can't discount the trees help in allowing Stig's brilliance. :D

Thanks for posting that Stephen. The ream would speed up the trees fall a bit, and allow the effect of the step to go sooner, it would seem. Hope to try that today and also add a dutchman on the other side to try and get the tree turning quick. In the situation here, often with other trees in...

With the German? No, I forgot he mentioned that. It should change the effect. Thanks, I'll have to find that post. Do you ever gut the hinge with the whizzy, Willie?

Ahem....back to the original topic. Y'know I've been using both the whizzy and the German at this site in the mountains. Excellent opportunity to try out methods with some fairly good sized trees on steep inclines, so you get the advantage to observe the fall longer than you would on flat...

Has it been posted that both the whizzy and the German work best with a conventional face? Just wondering about that. Thanks.

It seems like Burnham may well have answered the post following his as well. :O

It seems that once the tree begins to fall and gravity takes over, it is just like a standard face until the side without the whizzy breaks, and then the whizzy takes over, the tree still being attached via it. One thing that I noticed with the whizzy is that due to the tree still being...

Had a chance to use the Whizzy today for the first time. The tree made a sudden left turn, but unfortunately only to hang up in another. :|: It is a very good technique.

Wow, I don't recall ever reading about that method. People get creative out there in the woods.

Your description is good, Burnham. Lots of discussions gets things mixed up sometimes. A word or two can sort it out if study was done when discussed, I find. Thanks.

I think that there might be some question about how the "German" is performed, at least in my mind. Would you go over it, Stig, sorry if it is asking you to repeat. "Step Dutchman", without going to my shop to check, I don't recall mention of that in Jerry's book. Is that the "soft dutchman...

Same here, just cases where people tell me it's ok to smash things.

Wow, that little bit of whizzy swung the tree.....must be some strong fibers. The whizzy makes me dizzy.

That is so spot on, Jerry. Once the lineage of traditionally passed along skills gets broken, that is knowledge via experience, it is difficult to bring it back. Often a different thing from regular school education. Long live experience!

Faster fall with an even back cut makes sense.

Nice job, Stig. I think that one photo can be called the current definitive picture of the whizzy. Do you aim for an even back cut with that technique, or not so particular?