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Thanks bonner1040, so when treestuff.com offers "sewn eyes" in the HTP, that's not exactly a DIY procedure I guess - I guess I'll use the figure 8 then! http://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?item=491

Actually I'd like to try making eye splices with the Sterling 7/16" HTP static kern mantle rope but I can't seem to find any two methods that agree - one starts with the tag end at 28", another uses 30 times the diameter which for 7/16" would be 13 1/8", and the third is 2 times the 9 1/2" fid...

That's where I'm at, I'm confident in my abilities to follow instructions but like bonner1040, being able to see it would be peace of mind for me. In a spliced eye, I'd probably still want to run a zillion threads thru it with a carpet needle and then hold that together with some heat shrink. I...

. . . a figure 8 follow thru loop knot or a spliced closed eye made yourself in 11mm rope? Thanks.