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Mine was a skinny forest elm, maybe 2 foot diameter. I made it about 25 feet up the bole, gaffed out and slid all the way down, landing more or less on my ass. Bump! When I graduated the course, the instructor told me that he'd never thought I'd make it up another tree after that one. I had...

Those are nowher like the ones, I tried. Those were more refined , but likely just as crappy to climb on.

Austrian, I belive. I tried a pair ages ago. Total crap, even on smooth barked trees like beech, you gaff out real easy.