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Ed, it is not like that any more. That was back when I worked the private forests belonging to the estates of the gentry. Back when they actually had people working in their woods and living on the estate. Today everybody are hired guns, like me. So the hierarchy thing with loggers/machine...

They are a bunch of lard asses who don't step out of the cab unless they absolutely have to, so yes. It is an old traditional feud here. The fallers look down on the forwarder/skidder/harvester guys for not being brawny, manly men and they in turn look down on us for being too stupid to...

But that would mean the driver had to step out of the machine in order to hook the cables up. That wouldn't work around here.