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Yep, I don't want to run noisier saws. I'd rather live with less power. I suppose that now that my hearing is screwed up bad enough for me to use hearing aids after running saws my whole life, it doesn't matter anymore.

Precisely! Since we offer grinding, if they don't want that, I don't go too low when ALAPing. They get tired of lookinh at the stump, they are free to call to have it removed.

For sure. I have about 15 new 18" bars in stock. Just perfect for that saw. When do you think the rest of the housers get tired of our bar length banter and kick us out?:lol:

Sound about right, Al:D

The 441 has plenty of power for what I use it for. Remember, I'm a Euro logger. I only have 18" bars on those:D

Apart from the Disston, I mentioned, I feel much the same way. Before saws got politically correct, you got more grunt per pound, but the newer saws are so much smoother and user friendly. I had a 460 as backup saw untill it died last year. Everytime my 441 needed to go to the shop and I...

We just bought one last month for a real stupid reason. The faller we had brought in to help out had an old 460 CAT. It seized up and he couldn't afford a new saw. Since we needed his help badly, we said we'd buy a saw and lend it to him. Since we already have 3 441s, we decided to try out the...

My absolute favourite is an 6 foot Disston that my mentor filed, set up and gave to me years and years ago.