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You're right. I was being a smart ass. Definitely not the thing to do to Justin, since he'd never do that himself.:lol: Also someone who just about managed to get himself squashed like a bug on a windshield shouldn't be a smartass. I wish to retract that remark. I think we are up against the...

Your ability as a treefaller?

Dyneema is lovely stuff, all right. And not terribly expensive either.

Burnham is a logger. We don't use taglines. Unless you'd call an 18 ton dyneema line attached to a skidder a tagline, that is:lol:

With the length of your trees, I can understand that. A good sized fir for you is more than 1½ times as tall as one is here. Takes an open face to keep one like that commited to the lay, for sure.

I stand corrected! I wonder why I thought you did it the other way. Probably I was remembering your atrocious habit of putting the horizontal cut in first, and that mislead me;) More likely I'm remembering some of those pictures f other fallers dropping hazard trees that You've posted, and...

Yoiur way works fine for the trees you are falling, Butch. I just tend to see everything through the eyes of a faller, working to scale. Also I was teasing you;)

So you'd waste time putting in an extra, unnecessary, cut. I know you work at staying skinny, but using work methods that'll make you starve as a faller is not the way to go about it IMO:P Burnham, why did you use a conventional face on that tree? I don't recall seing you ever do that before...