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Well Jay. I am impressed. You know I love a modded saw myself.

I'd say if they are they failed miserably at it. Stihl chain is all I've run in recent memory.

Who here has perfect chain tension the entire time a new chain breaks(stretches)in? If you do kudos to you for stopping to adjust your chain constantly. For most I think, you slap it on kinda tight and wait until it seems kinda loose to adjust it up again.

Jay if that post is directed to me either I'm misunderstanding you or you're misunderstanding me. I didn't say it throws the chain more with an 8 pin. I said that when the chain does throw that a eight pin rim is going to throw it harder than a seven pin. Sometimes I went for what seemed like...

I've been cut mildly by one once. It came back and slapped me but through the crotch, luckily missing the jewels and gave me a ass slapping that would make a stripper blush. I honestly have no idea the size of the rim I was running.

I'm counting on ya now!

yes similar to Willie from what I've seen. I thought from what you were talking about Sean you meant cutting limbs which the odd one will need to be cut even though as Willard pointed out any skidderman worth his salt would've dealt with most anything that made it up from the hill. Still...

Yah most landing men/buckerman aren't going to favour an excessively low raker because it's rough as hell like Willie mentioned. It's going to make plunge cutting harder for bucking and it's going to do more damage when encountering rocks/dirt.

I've never heard of or wouldn't imagine it possible to run a chain with the rakers filed right off. I wouldn't see the point of it for limbing/bucking either?

So Willard do you know say percentage wise what the speed difference between a seven and eight pin is? Because I will stand by my earlier statement that 8 pin rims seem to throw a chain harder when it does happen and I always attributed it to whatever speed difference there is. If there is no...

Proper tension, cutting technique, alignment of the sun and moon, and whatnot. Anyone that runs a saw everyday is going to throw a chain sooner or later. Was just saying that the increased chain speed equates to more potential for damage when it happens. 7 or 8 pin 3/8 rims are readily...

Imo that greater chain speed can really increase the chance of a chain throw, while say limbing or brushing of any sort. As well that increased chain speed causes chain throws to be more violent and damaging.