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It would be about the same payment Brian, the problem is people aren't going to be able to see the benefits of these machines vs the cost. The stigma is going to be "Well if I get a skidsteer I can do this and this, and it will lift more for the same money as that little toy you are trying to...

I know Dave, I was just trying to see if we could come up with some selling points to make the Artics more appealing. I'm not trying to bash on them, I promise!

I disagree, the mini replaces two, no idea what the artic's replace! Again, I'm not trying to sell them short, I certainly can't afford or justify one, but trying to come up with a way to get "Joe six pack" (the main buyer) to understand why it's so much better than a full size skid steer. See...

Yet again, I seem to have been misunderstood! I see and understand the benefits of these machines! I am just pointing out that we need to find a better way to sell them. People will say "I can buy a full size skid steer for that price and I can do this and that with it........" This is true, but...

I understand Dave, not knocking the artic's either, just having sticker shock! I know it's not apples to apples, just thinking of it from a financial perspective. I think it might be a hard sell for a lot of people thinking of a skid steer and looking at numbers. That's all.

The artic's are nice machines, I can appreciate the higher lift capacity, but I still attest, with Carl, it's the driver. I can tear the hell out of yard, or you can not even tell I've been there on the Thomas, depends on the job. I also like the smaller size of the skid steer, in a lot...