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Thanks again, Burnham! I've read these 2 threads over now, twice. A little of it is slowly sinking in I think.

Thanks a lot Burnham! ....and All the comments! Got these threads (and this one) marked for reading and study!

haha, you guys know 1000 times more about this stuff than I do.... but "according to the book" the lean is *toward* the notch/face. I think my diagram was too small and bad. I tried to make the diagram bigger and better but couldn't figure out how! :) What the diagram was *supposed* to represent...

Very interesting, murphy4trees. I had wondered about that. Thanks! Have recently heard of the Coos Bay method, but don't really understand it yet... all in due time.

There is a technique for cutting head leaners in Douglas Dent's book and the British Columbia "Fallers' and Buckers'" Handbook" where, after the face is cut..... 2 side cuts are made which form a triangle, then the final cut is made like a normal back cut from the back of the tree toward the...