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August, I had no business talking/writing/typing the way I did about things I know nothing about. I'm here to learn and I am grateful for the help I've gotten from everyone here. I wish I had a part-time job dragging brush on your crew. Like I said if I wind up getting a climbing saddle...

.... You know, I'm really not their target audience.... and I don't know anything about it. but it is New Tribe website and WesSpur website... the others just seem give a basic description of its features. But the 2 aforementioned seem to try to give a tip of the hat to the dynamic logo, etc...

Every one I've seen so far that I can recall... Starting with New Tribe's website, and TreeStuff, and WesSpur, as I recall. I was "jarred" and puzzled by the disconnect between the plain, pedantic, description of the Monkey Beaver saddle vs. the high energy, "excitement", "robust" skill, etc...

The MB logo/equation == the feel of the August Hunicke video productions ... action, skill, energy, excitement, precision, etc., etc. HOWEVER the marketing (e.g. advertisement copy/text in the catalogs and online) of the Monkey Beaver saddles is very lame (in my opinion) and TOTALLY misses the...