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INteresting tid bit.. the knot always fails at the marl or half hitch when it is used to back up a running bowline and contrary to popular opinion the marl or half hitch can actually make the rigging system weaker.... so using it for additional grip is in order, but not necessarily additional...

I think I did read some of that.. Very impressive info.... that may have been where I remember getting those #s

so long ago I couldn't say for sure....... this conversation has made me re-think the way ropes and knots are tested.. seems like tying arigging rope to a piece of wood and then pull testing would give the most accurate information.

Kenny, Don;t mean to pester you, can you qualify the 5-8% difference... any references ??? I recall hearing bowline was smewhere around 60% strength and double bowline is around 75-80%... when you add the friction of the rope on the piece it acts like a multiplier, making the difference even...

I ran a chip truck out of fuel only one time in the 10+ years I owned it.. Had to drag it out of the street with a pick up.. only had some old piece of short scrap line... Broke the bowline straight away... retied with double bowline for exact same application, rope , positioning etc worked...

Where did you get that figure 5-8% ????? If we say a bowline reduces a line strength by 40% and making a 10,000 line break at 6,000 lbs and a double bowline only reduces line strength by 32%, you could say the difference is 8%, but that would be decieving 10,000 lb line would break at 6,800...

double bowline is an easy upgrade and much stronger knot. I use it automatically on everything over 100 lbs..

There is a lot more to it than the size of the rope.. if 3/4" is too small for that little bit of wood, how big a rope do you need??? something is wrong here.. hard to believe that was 3/4" polyd... definitely broke at the knot.. which begs the question what kind of knot should you use for...

Yeah you made it look as smooth as can be... just slightly more effort than walking up stairs.. x2 on the camera angle and slow mo of the splattering bark bits.. B&W etc... really nice cinematic production..