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Hard trek to find a spot to pee. Poor pooch.

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It's amazing how so many different topics can flow so well in one thread.

Excellently put.

When you can't get your child to work for a reward, that's scary. Doesn't seem our old ways of instilling work ethic are as copacetic with the kids today as when we grew up. Some other approach is needed, I guess. But what? Luck.

Then I stand corrected. Life is rich.

This is turning out to be a pretty darn good thread, and all. Such good feed back and resolution without a lot of bickering. The kind of thread I like to read. All good points. Carry on.

Dave's a good guy and a great innovator in the industry. I will admit his online manners distract at times, but if you know the man like I do that is easily overlooked