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If threads stayed strictly on topic, conversations would not flow freely and lead to the bonds and friendships that make this place unique. The core group that exists here would fizzle off if the quality of evolving conversation was eliminated and the place became a bulletin board. Threads here...

Derails are the best indicator of smooth flowing conversation. Imagine if we stuck to the topic and hand and bid each other farewell after we each gave our lecture. It would boring.

Yes, I'm Chris. Look, my perspective is simply that and nothing more. Just my angle on something. I totally agree that with the right manpower, working on a percentage basis could be gold for everyone involved right down to the customer. Guys will hesitate to rut up a yard after the first time...

I doubt they are highly motivated. I think its more an easy reason to get mad at the employer. "I'm supposed to work off a percentage and so and so keeps sending us out with this piece of shit chipper that won't stay running. I'm getting screwed!" That's more the attitude I've heard stems...

It also can make those 3-5 man crews despise one another and point the finger at each other constantly for why they didn't earn more.

I know of a company that pays their employees on percentage. HUGE outfit by Philly. Doing 9 million a year I believe. It keeps the men working to keep tallying up their paycheck but they don't take kindly to equipment breakdowns and traffic jams.

He won't obey you if you demand he do it?

Sounds like we are very much on the same page. Each style has its place. Thanks for clarifying. I was scratching my head at the idea that maybe you used a block/ring for every single thing and that notion surprised me. I used to use a nylon sling and steel caribiner a lot for small rigging to...

Reg, I think we may be on different pages but I'm not sure. You think a block/ring is the way to go the majority of the time?

This is what I meant in saying "when it's time for a block, its time for a block".

Folks here are impressed by iron. That's pretty universal I think. I sort of think it makes them feel like they are getting a lot more for the money.

My customer base wouldn't know good rigging gear from kids toys. The finished product is the absolute only thing that has ever impressed my client base outside of honesty and timeliness.

You got it done safely and effectively so eyebrows can be raised all they want. Your chosen method and plan proved without dispute that it was one of several effective and safe approaches.

I think I'd like your videos even more if it showed a little of the bad with the good. Not bad bad. But a little poof of smoke on the rope shows some of the dynamics of the rig for those who know what they are watching. A puff of smoke in a video would put load size into perspective for me...

Shame on you.

When its time for a block, its time for a block. It is what it is. When I'm doing my thing around the tree and see a bangin crotch to work a piece out of, I'm whip up a monkey fist and toss that sucker right up through that crotch and get busy. Does this mean I should be on some sort of...

Ready for the kicker? So do most of the folks on this forum. We all know it. It just isn't cool to say it out loud. But im not cool, so I will speak for everyone that feels the deep burning shame of using crotches for a 45 minute removal instead of decorating the tree with gear so it now takes...

Ready? Everyone brace yourselves. Here it comes. Gather the pitchforks and torches....... I natural crotch 95% of the time!

I bet a pile of folks would have tried to crucify me by now had you not agreed with me August.

I do have and periodically use three strand in a tree but not for butt hitching logs down. Stable braid, stainless block on a 3/4" sling and a big old porty on a 7/8" sling. I prefer not to burn ropes but I'm known to do so. I look at the tree, I look at the money bid into it, and I look at the...