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Stig, there were at one time a great many European unarmed combat disciplines. Many of them were taught in conjunction with skills with swords, staffs and other weapons. I believe that with the eastern respect for historical tradition, the martial arts of that culture have been remember far...

Exactly my thoughts Stig.

If only there was a dojo like that round here. They have a Karate class in my local gym. To quote a phrase. its crap ;) I dont think Ive ever seen any sparring there, and to many 10 year olds. Again, going back to the original post I made, I think Wing Chun can be very effective, but the local...

kick harder :D

Very flexible (I think!). Always have been - but now I spent most of my time in an office, I dont want to loose that. What is a good indicator of flexibility?

So you train BJJ and Karate? or do you hybrid the two? What put me off the wing chun was the long periods of doing the 4 forms. That period would be better spent getting my heartrate up!

there is a local Muay Thai gym here. It may well give me the physically demanding workout I want.

See, thats exactly what I'm looking for. Stig, I'll bow to your knowledge when it comes to karate, but Bruce Lee was still a phenomenal physical specimen. His physical strength and conditioning were exceptional.

My opinion is that Bruce Lee would have been an astounding fighter no matter what discipline he used. Some people just have that in them.

Thats what I'm looking for. Bruce Lee said that too many martial arts concentrate on the forms too much, rather than actual contact sparring. My other idea was to join a boxing club -or maybe kickboxing. There are more trainers and clubs to choose from.

Whats the difference?

I did'nt know anything apart from having seen the film Ip Man, and knowing that Bruce Lee based parts of his method on it. I only went because a friend invited me. I do like the idea of practising a form of barehanded combat - but was not impressed with the instruction. Not that the sifu was'nt...

Hey Stig, as an old time Martial Artist, whats your opinion of Wing Chun? I've never done any martial arts (always been a boxer and a brawler), and last night went with a friend for a taster session. The Sifu was a Karate Instructor for 25 years before going this route, and claims its superior...