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What can you do with a cable skidder that you can't do with a winch on a grapple skidder? These sites are mostly short runs and flat, albeit often wet and boggy. A winch is essential to get the butts to firm ground.

Probably, they all have fat buttresses, but once you get past those there is little taper

Like this one? That's a 20" on the 441 for comparison.

The franklin does look good, 200hp cummins would certainly do the business.

Not sure the 525 has a winch?