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Good one Al. My Dad and uncles were all ironworkers. Some got old, some didn't.

Not impertinent at all Robert. Carrying too much weight is tough on the joints, kind of like making every climb with the 395 hanging on the saddle, not to mention the everyday fatigue factor. 180 for me, been there for about 30 years. I'm very fortunate that I have always been able to eat...