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Man, thanks Butch. Seriously. B: Can't thank you enough for the forgiveness. Really appreciate the sailing analogue as well. Darn straight advice. Evan (via a p.m.) really called me out on how spineless it is to blame shooting your mouth off on drink. Good kid; really hope he checks in...

Gentlemen: This is a public apology. Stig (and Evan btw via a p.m.) hit the nail on the head. I drank too much (again) and then rambled incoherently, and then shot my mouth off. Drunkards do that. Please (especially Burnham) forgive my drunken presumptions about all of your relationships to...

Hey Even: Really great job. Absolute PIG of a Big Leaf Maple from what it looked like. Btw, if you want to talk to the most learned/experienced arbo/timber-faller types, you've come to the right site: that's the only reason I hang out with these nasty atheists. Butch, Stig, Jerry Beranak...