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Yessir, Chris. There never has been, nor ever will be, a single "right" way to fall any one situational tree.

D. D. Dent never taught one over the other, and the USFS never did either in general. Both he and the agency taught the pros and cons of both face types, as well as the many variations on the theme, like a bird's mouth face as a single example, and left it to the sawyer to make his or her own...

Whatever TF that is...:D.

Bump. Per Deva...keep the thread warm :). Found it by luck, saw a bot or guest reading it.

That just about puts the proper name to it, Deva :). The D.D. Dent training threads I've had the good fortune to be able to start have all been the genesis of some really worthwhile back and forth. Lots of great info passed on in every one of them. Which just goes to show you how far the...

Bump, more and more! :D.

Not sure what you are asking about, Bob. If you mean the bark slabbed off at the corners of the face, that's to get rid of that 3+ inches of bark that makes dogging in and reading matched cuts difficult. Also favors reaching all the way across the facecut with a bar that's somewhat too short...

Bullard makes two basic models of hardhats in their Wildfire line, meeting the required standard, which is NFPA 1977...one is full brim and one is brimmed at the front only. But neither accept muffs or face screens. They offer an adapter for a flip down polycarbonate face screen, but I don't...

They do, Butch. Bullard's is the best known of that variety, though not every model of theirs is so rated. That's what all FS field-going workers use, a plastic polymer that is heat resistant. And you're right, they do cost significantly more. At one time, the plastics offered better...

My bad, Butch...I assumed you'd know the effects of high levels of radiant heat on plastics not formulated to deal with that, but just didn't believe that firefighters actually work in conditions like that. Sorry.

You're kidding, right? If not, you don't know squat about the real conditions fireline crews operate in. Ask Old Monkey, or wiley p.

Sure is, Gord. USFS employees, every single one with field-going responsibilities, are issued hardhats that must meet standards for use in wildfire suppression activities. Those like you linked are not sufficiently resistant to radiant heat to meet the standard.

Damn good thing I did do a decent job on that one...I can't recall having screwed the pooch so badly on a face cut as I did on the first tree in some 30 years of felling for the FS :(. Just when you think you're beginning to get halfway competent at something... :|:

I don't think Doug had much of a teacher, other than the school of hard knocks as a young bull of a custom cutter in western Oregon in the late 60's and 70's. Certainly nothing organized, like an apprentice program...such didn't exist. That would be a great question to ask him. Did y'all know...

If one were to tell Dent to chuff off, he'd tell you to shut your blankity blank saw off and get your blankity blank azz out of his class and sight...in no uncertain terms and with a distinct lack of gentle language accompanying the aforementioned message :D. He smiles often enough during his...

I hear you...that's definitely his style. The touch is to give you a nudge or tug when he decides the time to exit is NOW. If you go on your own without him feeling the need to encourage you, you never even feel his hand. I can tell you, he is as focused on the tree and the feedback it's...

Dent had me cut a second tree that day, after my less than awesome job on the gapped face. No pics of the action, just a few afters. This one was the only really bad snag we worked on...a schoolmarm, dead as hell, lost big patches of bark. The bigger double top wobbled like a drunk every time...

Here's another batch. I don't know why that face looks so off level in my pictures...it was a tiny bit out of plumb, but not near as much as it appears. Proof of that is Dent never said even a single word about it.

Thanks, Willie. Dent agreed with Stig on that one, Jed. That tree had some headlean, the wedge in the back cut kerf was serving mostly as a telltale, and it slowly started to commit to the face before he had progressed even as far as you see in the completed back cut. He stayed in the hole...

Which picture, Jed?