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Agreed. We used to say, take your helmet system off when backing up, now we say put it on!

Hands on the The steering wheel and foot on the accelerator make driver responsible for damages. Haven't you ever doubted your guide and double checked his directions? You could say it was his fault, but it never really feels cut and dried. How about this. . .When you have somebody guiding you...

Rich, I can't really agree with that part you added at the end but this part summarizes PERFECTLY what I would have said about it if I had been as eloquent.

Talk before execution is fine but wrap judgment is ultimately on the rope man. Because he's the man running the rope. Same as driver is responsible for damage even if he is misdirected by guide man. If you stand to be smashed by his potential mistake, you should do something else.

Ya, all I'm saying is, we use good guys and they usually make us look good with smooth runs but when they don't run it smooth and they have too many wraps or something I don't die as a result of it.

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I almost never require a ground man to do anything a certain way for my safety, when it comes to lowering. I cannot remember the last time I relied on something like a smooth run for my safety. Even Lawrence, in the video you referenced on TB, Daniel, was taking the usual precautionary avoidance...