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I would think that with no weight on the system, the liklihood of the carabiner rolling open is almost nil...almost...because as we all know, wierd stuff happens! The pull down ones could open, given the right set of circumstances, I've certainly pulled myself up across a few branches, as well...

That's it...just about the same! Knowing it can happen allows you to perhaps have an ear for if and when it does happen, so we hear/see it quickly and go home in one piece!

That's a good reflection to live by Frax! Mine usually is, 'what will happen if this goes wrong?' where will I go, where will the saw go, where will the bit of tree go... I've never forgotten a pre climbing workshop safety talk by an ex-climber in a wheelchair, his summary was 'Live the life...

Apparently he did the baypass of the first fork in the proper manner, using his climbline, then I think went back to just the flipline once he was set to continue going up. The first fork was about 18m...big $(*%ing tree!

Apparently not, that was the first thought, that he'd clipped into a gear loop or gear biner, doesn't appear to be the case. His spike marks were above the first fork, so he'd started to go up after passing the fork, perhaps holding the flipline against the tree, not leaning back, then when he...

Horrible...about 60' straight down no bouncing til the bottom....he landed in the chipper feed tray on one foot, his spike punched through the metal, shattered his foot into a hundred little pieces, two cracked vertebrae, bruised ribs, broken eye socket. He had that external brace thing on his...

Burnham, that sounds like what probably happened to my friend who fell 20m, that or the jammed open snap scenario...he's lucky to be alive, not paralyzed, and a good prognosis for the future, after a year or so of rehab.

That's like finding half a worm in your apple....! Its already happened before you realized it!

Nope, I'm in Tasmania...I was up a big ash tree and wiggling down to the tips, the situation itself led to a bit more caution which is probably why I heard it and saw it before anything really nasty happened! As soon as I backed away from the branches the gate snapped shut again on its own.

Words to survive by Gerry. I always knew that a rollout could happen, now I've seen it. I have a friend over here who is recovering from a 20m fall, he had been fliplining up a bare stem of a euc and thinks the snap on his lanyard came open and when he leaned back it was not clipped in. He had...

Yeah, well my jinx came up yesterday so I should be OK for a while...

Ahh...give it time Eric...one day, one day....

Exactly...that's what's on my flipline. Biners and snaps can come open given the right set of circumstances!

Tell me there are at least two motions to open the snap...!

Do you mean the double action snap Butch or something different? I have a friend here who is recovering from a 20 meter fall, he reckons the snap on his wire core came open...not quite sure how, they are still reconstructing the accident, as well as him!

Yes, that's what I do, open them and then release them slowly...if they don't close all the way it's time for a cleaning, just letting them snap shut sometimes doesn't give you the true reading of if a biner is getting gummy. The ones on my HC are fine...it was the combination of sliding past a...

DMM with a green gate...yup, fully closed they get the click test every climb. I know what happened, as I slipped past the branch the gate got pushed up, then I moved and it got turned then moved again and it got pushed in and opened, they were bouncy little branches and it was a bit of a...

During a scramble down between some branches out on the tips yesterday, I slid past one and heard a funny noise...looked at my hitch system and lo and behold the gate on the triple lock was OPEN!!! It was the lower one (HC/VT System) I had my weight on it so there was no chance of the VT eye...