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Don't say I never listen to my elders. I had to pull this sideleaning oak today and to get the best possible hinge, I made a deep ( for me) face cut. Richard's comment was: "Burnham would sure be pleased to see you cutting like that" So here is a picture for Burnham.:D

Here is a video of how NOT to do it. I thought Murphy could spend a lot of time messing around with a face cut, but this guy has him beat by several leagues. Why the tree didn't barber chair on him is beyond me! <iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390"...

Those guys are definitely not pros. As we all know a true pro uses a slanted backcut!

Marking corners is a rookie tecnique IMO. When I start apprentices up, I'll have them do it, but then I'll wean them of it as soon as possible. One thing, though, my way of doing things is based on the fact that for 6 months of the year I get paid by the amount of timber I produce. So I'm very...

Well I'm back. After another long day of setting facecuts in big beech trees:) Jed as to your question about how we maintain levelness of the face when we put the top cut in first. Practise makes perfect. That is really all there is to it. Do it enough times and it'll become second nature...

That was a nice post to wake up to, indeed:) Willard, I completely agree on the sapwood thing, but if he hadn't cut the rootflares off, there is no way he could have cut that tree with a 24" bar. Burnham, I just thought of another reason why we cut so low. Beech logs split real easy. In...

You can see him boring in behind the hinge. Then he just ran the saw around the tree untill he hit the hinge on the other side of the tree and stuck a couple of wedges in on the way of course. That is standard procedure amongst us suave and sophisticated european fallers. Pictures would be...

By the way, since this is a facecut thread. If you look closely at the face in the oak, you can see that he hit it pefectly in first try. He has not cleaned it up. And this in cutting from both sides and with only just having ended his apprenticeship. This is the most talented apprentice I've...

Cut it high then alap it. Take the safe route. That would be my take on it.

You are right as usual. If our trees grew to 250 feet. we could afford to cut them head high, too. Man, can we derail a thread:lol:

You mean like the oak, Anders dug out of the ground last month:lol:

You are so right Burnham. Which is why I'll always set a high stump ( or in your terms, a normal stump) when I'm working around buildings. But in the woods here, the trouble one gets into for hitting another tree are nothing compared to what'll hit you if you leave the first 3 feet of every...

Is this where the expression. " shoot for the moon" comes from?

But why would you want to change it. Do you often change your mind in the middle of falling a tree and decide that it would be better to drop it in another direction. I usually make decidin on the lay part of my preliminaries, like checking for widowmakers, and making sure the saw is gassed up.

Nah, Burnham, it is not so bad here with the provincialism. I looked at the Forestry thread on AS a while ago and they pretty much hold on to the opinion that if you're not from the PNW, you are not a real logger and had best shut up. Like you, I like joking about the subject. But the fun...

You guys who keep repeating that mantra comes off sounding a little provincial, to my year.;) In about ½ the world, all pro fallers do it the other way round, myself included. I can't explain how I do, my English is not up to the task, at least not right now after a hard day in the woods...

Thanks, Jerry. Now I've got tilt & roll. What is the difference between side and corner, seems to me they'd be the same thing?

Just keep cutting. Eventually they'll cross each other. In all seriousnes, now that I understand the question, I just go by feel. Shit, I just reread the question and I still don't understand it. From the side or from the corner?????????????????????????? Tilt and roll??? I don't get ANY...

Could you maybe phrase the question diffrently. I simply don't get what it is you are asking. Bear in mind, I'm just a dumb scandinavian woodcutter with a poor understanding of English;) But I really don't get it.