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Thanks alot, Dave, for that speedy info! Did you invent that knot?

Cool. I'd like to try it. Could probably play around and cipher the knot, but do you have any pics etc for tying it??

The last set up is interesting. What termination knot is that holding both bineres. The no-clanking is nice, but it looks like you have to disconnect both biners to go around a limb. Is that a problem re time spent vs other setups which only require one unhook/rehook?

I've seen a biner on your fig 8 descender.

It's real cool to see all these different set ups. Blink, I thought you used a steel biner for wieght on your climb line, those biners both look aluminium.

Brendon, that looks nice and simple and no clanging. What do you do if you want to throw the end of your climb line, what do you use for wieght on it?