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    I planted phacelia on 500 acres Stig. What I think they are finding is that a whole load of nitrogen just sitting around is vulnerable to disappearing. Dave, I guess they are working on better tests for producers like me. We use a lot of alfalfa Steve. Mostly in long term, diverse rotations.
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    sawman replied to a thread How'd it go today? in Odds and Ends
    Hell ya looks like a long roll of nickels!!
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    Maybe the answer is to plant more diverse mixes. The yellow clover, or your father's vetch is planted as a mono culture, and high nitrogen, low carbon. It is only supplying one kind of bug what it wants. Plants like flax and wheat are high carbon, low nitrogen, just the opposite. But in a mono culture it is only really working for one side of the house. I do know that oats are an excellent nitrogen scavenger, and an excellent nitrogen storing plant. Plus they are a good soil builder. Maybe the wild oats were really thick in his orchard because of an excess of nitrogen in the soil. They went to work naturally because the soil biology was out of whack. Maybe if there had been some high carbon grasses planted along with the vetch the oats might not have become a problem? Or maybe walnut trees need lots of nitrogen and wild oats are just evil....which they are. Just spit balling here!
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    Do walnut trees like nitrogen? I dont know anything about trees, I only have the one. What kind of management do they need? Vetch is a prolific supplier of nitrogen, as I understand it. I guess a very thick crop of vetch left growing in the ground for a long time can actually fix enough nitrogen to damage other seedlings. Can you utilize animals to graze the vetch around a walnut tree, or is that impractical? I guess the down side to the yellow clover is that the bacteria that are working on the plant material are fed too much, too quickly. Everything gets out of whack. The carbon/nitrogen ratio of legumes is very low....very easily broken down....perhaps too easily. Again, I dont know for sure I have read you last sentence several times, but I cant figure it out.....why it would only be temporary. Have to think on that some more. Part of what I dont understand is that conventional soil tests find soils that are high in organic matter to be often deficient in nitrogen. Those same soils can raise crops with adequate protein though. There must be something else going on here. Like soils high in "N" are often low in organic matter, and soils high in organic matter are often low on "N". Maybe the added synthetic fertilizer,, or maybe even fixed natural "N" is actually a detriment to the soils because it throws the biological balance out of whack? Carbon/Nitrogen ratios? Some bugs eat carbon, some eat nitrogen.... Too many questions in my head!
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    Most the time I just do a sieg Heil salute at around 45* and it usually fits. Harder to judge that way on slopes though :lol:
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    ☝This or stick trick for me.
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    Happy birthday ! Better late than never :lol:
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    Are those towing tabs welded in one pass? Welded on the surface or are they set back into slots?
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    Excellent rigging Chris. Love jobs like that. :thumbup:
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    I have another cover crop, regenerative ag meeting tomorrow. I seem to be a required element for anyone's meetings anymore. Some salesmen coming tomorrow. I shall be on high alert for bullshittery! I know this stuff gets boring as hell, but I learned another tid bit yesterday. A common practice in organic farming, and one that I have mentioned before, mentioned that I was skeptical about but did not know why, is to plant yellow clover seed with your wheat seed in the spring. Yellow clover seed does not germinate that first year, it is an every other year deal. Not quite sure why that is, but we do see it out on the prairie. One year or another will be a "clover" year. Damn stuff is everywhere....every other year. Anyway, the idea is to plant a nitrogen fixing crop. It is supposed to provide nitrogen for the crop planted the year after the clover is terminated....plowed down with a heavy disc. Also, it is supposed to increase organic matter in the soil. Makes sense right? Take a crap load of plant flesh and bury it. The problems I have with the practice is that after June 15 the crop is to be terminated. That means that the "cover crop" is no longer covering anything. You just have to summer fallow it the rest of the year. With that you have all the regular problems of moisture loss, high soil temps, decreased soil biology, and erosion....both wind and water. I was visiting with my uncle a while ago and he mentioned that they have not been seeing a protein boost in their organic wheat. He has been organic for 30 years or so and has been doing this yellow clover planting for many years. Nitrogen in the soils, which is fixed by legumes or added with fertilizer, is what really makes protein in your wheat. Low protein wheat is severely discounted. So I asked my NRCS man about it. He explained to me that planting yellow clover or peas with the idea of plowing it down early is actually decreasing the plant available nitrogen in the soil. WAT? I says! Apparently when you plow a crop like that down it causes most of the plant matter to be converted to nitrogen in 20 days. That huge boost in plant matter causes the underground biology to go into over drive converting the biomass into plant available nitrogen. Once that occours other plants and bacteria go into over drive consuming that nitrogen. When they have all of that used up, they turn to other sources of nitrogen in the soil for food. The end result is that you end up with less nitrogen that when you started. The only way to store that nitrogen boost for another cash crop planted in the fall or next spring would be to plant a nitrogen scavenging plant to capture and hold that nitrogen. Something that very few producers do. Another problem with having a crap load of plant available nitrogen just sitting in the soil is that it is also available for leaching and volitization. If no plants are there to hold the nitrogen, it just washes or evaporates away. The solution is a catch crop, like radishes or turnips, or you could leave that crop of clover standing so that it breaks down more slowly. A better idea is to plant a full season, diverse cover crop and leave the damn thing alone.
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    Love the bumper!
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    Rarely. It has to be pretty tight looking for me to measure it. When in doubt, climb it and top it out. Make it fit I do have a measure height program on my cell in case.
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    Love how you captured those pieces. Great control of the dynamics.
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    Happy birthday!
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    Looks like the long row to hoe. Long days doing it like that. Cool, gbut not for this old d og.
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    Not really. It been in the 50's lately. Still plenty of time for a spring storm or two. Saw a meadowlark and a bull snake today and three kildeer yesterday. Spring has sprung I guess.
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