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    treetx replied to a thread Instagram in Odds and Ends
    https://www.instagram.com/treeserviceanonymous/
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    treetx replied to a thread bad pick in Climbing Forum
    Looking at the pics of the "damage", the dropped piece may have increased property values...
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    2 Weeks Ago
    There are at least 2 and as many as 5 every year. Keep that in mind when they say it is rare. I took in the '99 totality. It was cool for sure. Not sure if it is get in the car or jump on an airplane type cool. But I 'spose that's easy to say if you've seen one.
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    treetx replied to a thread HUNTING 2017 in The Rec Room
    Maybe he should go do something relaxing like snare some of God's little creatures.... :P
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    treetx replied to a thread Floyd vs McGregor in The Rec Room
    I has hoping Macgregor was going to snap and deliver a roundhouse kick to the head creating the most amazing moment in sports history......
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    3 Weeks Ago
    For me selling got a lot easier when I took the mindset of being there to help and not there to make numbers on a sales manager's score board. I've found that if I stay out of the results business and just focus on doing the next right thing, the results seem to take care of themselves. For me, it meant being an independent 100% commission sales person. When I was directly employed, I would eventually have a manager who said, "eff the customer, I don't care if it is a good fit, we need the numbers, just get it sold." That sucks, it is not the sales guy I am. My talent isn't getting the needle in one side and out of the other before the realize they were pricked. By being 100% commission for 3-4 different (non competing)companies at a time, I am more beholden to the customer than to any single company. Keep in mind, I am B2B sales so I don't deal with consumers but rather a consultative and relational sale. It is simple really, after I've not screwed the customer with one product, it is easy to sell them the next product. Making the jump to 100% commission with an extremely variable income is hard for some folks.... but if you did treework for a decade, you are likely no stranger to an extremely variable income. :P
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    3 Weeks Ago
    One chestnut I love is the attitude of "you can't trust him, he's a salesman..." As if! You know who you can't trust? People who buy stuff. They somehow think that if they label someone as a sales person, then suddenly it is ok to be less than forthcoming. With having said that, it has been my experience that if you ask for an objection, if they give you one it is never what they say. If they say price, then the objection is usually scope of the job or their confidence in your solution. If they say scope of the job, or their confidence in your solution, it is usually price. In the line of what I sell (capital equipment between $50k and $300k) here is a secret Mr. Customer.... Be nice, be honest, and I'll give you a better deal. Works every time. If I catch you being less than forthcoming or not being nice because you think that is ok to do with sales people/vendors, then you are also going to be difficult after the sale - I have to charge more. (rant over)
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    3 Weeks Ago
    I am a professional salesman. Proudly so. My function is to be a value add to the customer. If you know your bid is solid and has value for the customer, leaving them open to get another 3 bids from the sharks in the muddy waters doesn't help them. At the end of the day, trees make great decisions. Humans, not so much. Hence there are way wider margins to be had helping people make good decisions than helping trees make good decisions. Mick is spot on about closing. No one likes to be closed but there are ways in leading your customer in that direction. That does include asking them if the timing is right. If you have given the bid, discussed the order of operations (including the bit where you tell them when payment will be due), and they're still with you, why not? They're questions, posture, etc let you know you're in the running, ask for the business, or ask to schedule the business, or ask if they have any questions/reservations. Pressure to close or trying to close or closing at the right time is NOT ok. Keep in mind that B2B is a relational sale. B2C (residential customers) is a transactional sale.
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    4 Weeks Ago
    Like Kevin, I have a wife who is a wizard at keeping the books. In regards to getting business, it is just like picking up women*. They smell desperation and gravitate to those without it.... *I've been married longer than I care to remember and know sweet f#ck-all about picking up women.
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    treetx replied to a thread Instagram in Odds and Ends
    Foot launch at times but for the most part, I tow up to about 2k behind a trike or some other low speed aircraft. https://www.instagram.com/p/BXs9VCJhwmm/?taken-by=gravityunknown Guy who climbs trees with chainsaws asks, "how safe is it?" lol! Safe, I dunno - fun, for sure!
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    08-15-2017
    I saw '99 in totality as well. We lucked out. The weather was overcast in Bavaria and then an hour before, blue skies. It is worth noting that anything other than totality, even 99.999% is just like normal day light so you won't "see" anything unless you use glasses, etc. The 100% part lasted less than 2 minutes, but it got blacker than a lawyer's heart in that time. The temperature dropped. Oh yeah, best part, we partied like it was 1999 because it was!!!!
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    08-15-2017
    treetx replied to a thread In The News... in Odds and Ends
    Killer tree http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40940007
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    08-15-2017
    treetx replied to a thread Instagram in Odds and Ends
    https://www.instagram.com/gravityunknown/ It is the only social media I use. Mainly because I can keep it to my hobby. No BS family and friends or random people from my past. Mine is all gliding and sky for the most part. https://www.instagram.com/gravityunknown/
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    06-22-2017
    Hey I appreciate the wishes! It was a good day. The 42 isn't one of those years you celebrate. More one of the Bdays where you take stock in how good things are holding together and things that are giving out. More than anything, I just enjoyed being lazy.
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    05-25-2017
    Dunno about climbing season, but flying season is here. Hang gliding is on. Training for a distance encampment in July. My goal is to fly over 200 miles all without a motor, just by cloud hopping and following birds. Climb safe, have fun.
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    04-25-2017
    treetx replied to a thread Big hackberry in Tree Care and Health
    In my part of the world, the only good hackberry is a dead hackberry. In central TX, they live fast, die young, and have an ugly corpse at the funeral. If the church has insurance, why remove it? There is not much of a target. Half the folks it could fall on are already beneath the grass and the other 20-30 folks are only there what, for Sunday services before rushing to Luby's and bible study on Wednesdays? Target plays a big role. I'm just not seeing a target here.
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    04-21-2017
    I'll add that one who is questioning the other as being "a man of their word" might be right in doing so in their own head. The moment they express that thought in writing or verbally, they lose said moral high ground and become the owner of sour grapes - a whiner. No one likes whinging. I'm not calling the OP a whiner as this is solely discussion. I'm referring to interactions with negotiating parties.
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    04-15-2017
    A high performance glider. Like motorcycles, it is common to do the cash on crash deal. My reservation was that the seller had made modifications to "improve" the wing's performance. To me, the handshake was binding but just like one "oh sh^t!" can erase a ton of "atta boys", a handshake can be erased if one party want to be rude. My seller was likely rude because he feared me backing out which turned out to be a self fulfilling prophecy. Mick - Lol on the relatives dying before signing.
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    04-14-2017
    Here's where I'm at on the "man's word and handshake" thing. This is near and dear as I just had a deal blow up because I was going to back out. Crappy thing is that it is a guy I fly with and know pretty well. We shook hands and made a deal. I was to pay when he came back in town. Whilst he was away I said, hey, I'll show up with $7k cash, for you to hold but I want a test ride. In return I got an overly defensive scathing remark saying "hell no and I have a line of buyers." Not a "I'm not comfortable with that...." or "what reservations do you have?" So I just said, good, go sell it to someone else. To which I got scathing texts about not being a man of my word. For people who live in a black and white world, I suppose so. To those of us who live in reality, a handshake seals the deal but that does not release the buyer or seller from remaining civil until the deal is consummated. If a seller is rude, overly defensive, and bullying before a deal is complete, they should expect that conduct to alter the trajectory of the sale regardless of handshaking. My seller sure didn't see it that way. In tree work, I generally had a feel for who will slip out from the calendar. I sell things for a living. Reserving a calendar spot and not giving notice is different, but it is never ok for a seller to get mad at a buyer for not buying. Buyers are liars, that's just life. It is your job as a seller to maintain that task tension until the deal is consummated.
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