The History Channel; Ax Men

[squisher]

Belt, flipline and spurs. That was our climbing kit, hell I knew nothing else about it until I started poking around on the internet. Never did like some of our 'procedures' and now I know why.

[fishhuntcutwood]

Talk to a timber faller about SRT or DRT and they'll look at you like you have three heads.

Jerry being the exception to the rule! ;)

[NeTree]

I'm impressed with the extensive use of safety glasses.:eyeslam:

[Burnham]

You'd think the OSHA or WC guys would be all over them.

Perfectly legal and within all current requirements in Oregon, Washington, and California...as we speak. Oregon has a re-write due out any time now and there will be some significant changes. If the usual progression occurs, WA and then CA state industrial safety standards for logging industry climbing will follow suit.

[MasterBlaster]

Heck, I think they're already outta new shows already, lordy! :\:

[fishhuntcutwood]

Mine was new tonight. Little more BS'in, but still some saws and climbing going on.

Showed some good trees coming down.

[stehansen]

It seems kind of inefficient that they have to climb up and top the tree and then come down and get the cable and haul it up.

[sotc]

i dont know how they do it but we pulled up a block and strap and ran a manilla line through it so we could pull the cable trhough from the ground

[gf beranek]

I climbed up and set a pass block and the guys on the ground did the work getting the rigging up to me. Double "Young 17 inchers" with straps. Had to weigh a hundred pounds at least. Ugh.

[squisher]

Yup pass block and ground person leave a rope hanging through the tommy morr(big block) when done to pull the skyline through when needed. Of course that was if I had help, often I was pre-rigging by myself.

[fishhuntcutwood]

I'm impressed with the extensive use of safety glasses.:eyeslam:

That one guy had Bugz on. I wear those. They're sweet IMO.

[MasterBlaster]

I was wondering what the climber was doing with a hand saw in a brand new scabbard. Loggers with handsaws?

[MasterBlaster]

It looks like someone is gonna get hurt tonight.

[Ax-Man]

I have been watching the show from the first episode. I am imressed. Not really.

Seems more emphasis is being put on the skyline and carriage than anything else featuring the Axmen strangling cut trees with the chokers. It is some what interesting to watch trees being hauled uphill but it gets boring after awhile.

Maybe tonight will be different.

Oh, what is with that knot they showed last week on the climbers belt. Looked like it was tied in a permenant figure 8 with no room for adjustment. A plain old Becket hitch would work for what they do.

[MasterBlaster]

Maybe tonight will be different.

Lordy, that's what I'm hoping for... at least one good episode. :roll:

[MasterBlaster]

"Out here's a blast!"

:rockon:

[MasterBlaster]

Damn! Rope thieving! :X

[fishhuntcutwood]

Oh, what is with that knot they showed last week on the climbers belt. Looked like it was tied in a permenant figure 8 with no room for adjustment. A plain old Becket hitch would work for what they do.

I think it's that cat's paw or whatever it's called. Pretty common when using steel core manilla like you see often with loggers. I've used them. OM has one in a flipling in a picture in the rotator.

[fishhuntcutwood]

I ain't seen mine yet tonight. I'm watching Sopranos right now, and catch the late showing at 11:00.

[GASoline71]

I have not watched a single episode...

Gary

[Paul B]

me either, cant find it on my local cable. :(

[fishhuntcutwood]

I have not watched a single episode...

Gary

Why not? It's not a bad show. I know alot of it is dramatized, but it's cool watching the trees come down and watching the saws work. Makes me glad I'm only a visitor to the logging industry, and that I don't rely on it for a paycheck.

[Al Smith]

Hmm,seems I missed it .Kinda fell asleep in my easy chair .:( I'll catch the rerun .

[sotc]

ive got a video the loader operator took of me running yarder, him loading logs, turns coming up the hill. just small wood but still cool. its on vhs though, can that be converted to dvd easily?

[Paul B]

just need to get a connection from VCR to computer, once its on the hard drive burning a dvd is easy!

[Al Smith]

just need to get a connection from VCR to computer, once its on the hard drive burning a dvd is easy! I've never done it but my DVR has the ability to burn DVD to DVD or tape to DVD or store from a tv broadcast and to DVD .

It's just about like every electronic gizmo I have in that I seldom use them to their full capability . As it is ,it's just a fancy VCR recorder in it's general usage .

Actually we have two.One came with the digital tv/high speed internet and the other one I bought .

[GASoline71]

Why not? It's not a bad show. I know alot of it is dramatized, but it's cool watching the trees come down and watching the saws work. Makes me glad I'm only a visitor to the logging industry, and that I don't rely on it for a paycheck.

I grew up around it, and did it for a short spell in my teens... I still know families that are struggling with keeping jobs and stayin' in business... I just don't wanna see a cool ass indusrty get looked at like "American Chopper".

I don't wanna see a bunch of drama on the landing and such.

Firggin' A it's a tough ass job... and there is some drama even in the real world of loggin'... But i don't like it all hyped up on TV...

I dunno, It just hasn't appealed to me...

Gary

[squisher]

I was the drama :evil:.

Eleven years in the bush, still think about going back sometimes. While I was in Whistler I met up with my faller buddy who works in Pemberton, he had some pics of beautiful timber they've been in. Of course it ain't all like that but when the doug fir hit the 4' or better the camera comes out he said. My buddy lives a good life and is a top performer/lead hand on their falling crew and he's starting to get a little worried about the slow up in the bush up here.

Times are about to get real tough here mills are closed and log yards are full, I've talked with a few guys who've said they've got landings just crammed with wood in the bush but the price is down to far to sell it right now and no one really wants it. (besides it being break-up right now)

:(

I sure hope things pick up around here, even the main logging outfits in these parts are barely keeping their core guys going and the smaller outfits are mostly history.

[fishhuntcutwood]

I grew up around it, and did it for a short spell in my teens... I still know families that are struggling with keeping jobs and stayin' in business... I just don't wanna see a cool ass indusrty get looked at like "American Chopper".

I don't wanna see a bunch of drama on the landing and such.

Firggin' A it's a tough ass job... and there is some drama even in the real world of loggin'... But i don't like it all hyped up on TV...

I dunno, It just hasn't appealed to me...

Gary

Yeah that's what I figured. It's not anywhere near as corny as American Chopper. I can't even watch that show. Most of the drama is the same kind of drama drummed up in Deadliest Catch or Ice Road Truckers. It's the narrator making it sound like each turn may be the crew's last because the yarder is getting ready to explode and every cloud to come through is the second coming of hurricane Katrina. By the way the narrator talks, it's a wonder these guys make it to lunch without being smashed by a tree, getting run over by a shovel or dying from a splinter in their pinky..

[squisher]

Loggers survive because of this one reason:

You can't drink at work so you need to survive the day in order to get home and have a few cold ones.

:lol:

Never underestimate the willpower of beer.

[GASoline71]

Times are about to get real tough here mills are closed and log yards are full, I've talked with a few guys who've said they've got landings just crammed with wood in the bush but the price is down to far to sell it right now and no one really wants it. (besides it being break-up right now)

:(

I sure hope things pick up around here, even the main logging outfits in these parts are barely keeping their core guys going and the smaller outfits are mostly history.

It's the same down here Justin... I got bro's that are not real happy about the slowdowns. There log yards here full to capacity with export shit... But the sawmills are backed way up, and some are threatening to close...

If I wouldn't have joined the Navy... I would have continued in the bush, and worked my way up as a faller. I was a landing rat/hook chaser in my teens. It was a hard earned living... but I was makin' good money compared to the guys that were workin' on farms and as bus-boys...

So I am glad i got out of it when i did. I am very fortunate to be in the profession I am right now... :)

Gary

[squisher]

You gots to become faller or owner if ya want any real money outta the bush imo.

[GASoline71]

Yep... :)

Gary

[squisher]

Handfaller is a tough gig to get into up here I beat on that door for many years, paid my dues, proved myself and then was passed over cause there was lots of unemployed experienced fallers around and little to no one around who could climb, rig, hook, run yarder, skidder, loader, buck whatever needed to be done. I screwed myself by becoming to valuable where I was at.

Oh vell I can't really complain about how things have worked out for myself I suppose.:D

[sotc]

just need to get a connection from VCR to computer, once its on the hard drive burning a dvd is easy!

im dumb this way paul, can you explaine further? my neighbrs have a vcr i could use

[lumberjack]

I'll get you the info we have on our device when I get home. Basically the vcr hooks up to it and it hooks up to the computer. We use ours to convert VHS tapes into a digital (longer lasting) media.

[sotc]

cool, thanks

[Al Smith]

What is ironic about this situation is that during slow downs in home building that is the only time people on my end can buy decent lumber .

After a major catastrophic event such as a hurricane the price leaps up and the qualty goes plume to hell .Wet wood ,curved like a sled runner with bark on all four sides.At no extra cost either .:what:

Oh of course everybody gets a piece of that pie .From the crew dragging out the timber clear to the yard that sells it . I imagine though that the logging crew is the one that takes the screwen if the demand goes down .

[IchWarriorMkII]

I like the show, its a nice inside look into something I hear a bunch about hangin on forums like this, but see NONE of in my area.

I hate how they call it "Green GOLD" a total spin off the Crab shows, if its so much gold... why are they firing half their crews? Ha.

[squisher]

'Green gold' that's funny, never heard that before. They should call it 'Green bankruptcy' nowadays.

[gf beranek]

Economics aside, there's a lot of greed in the woods business. Not a plug here, but if any of you have read "Trouble in Paradise" in High Climbers, it is a very accurate portrayal of how everybody is out to get a bigger piece of the pie, by screwing someone else.

And in spite of everyone knowing it, it goes on more and more. Kind of like the IRS.

Working in the woods was all fine back in the day when the wages you earned could buy a home and paid the bills, and raise a family. Today it's just an existence and love for the out doors. Look how many people that post in this forum have left the woods to make a better living. Not that they don't think about both the hardship and love of the work they passed on.

Woods work has to be the finest way to spend a life in this world today, yesterday and in the future. Just too bad it doesn't pay enough to make it. I remember when it use to.

And that really breaks my heart. Yeah, I know I should get a life and move on. At 60 I think I'll become a economic anal-ist. Now that's where the money is at.

[MasterBlaster]

I figure by 60 I'll have enough cash for a TreeMotion, lol!

[gf beranek]

Or maybe promote climbing saddles.

[sotc]

talked to a local log trucker thats camping out in astoria, oregon cause theres not much work here. he says chats on the radio with trucks hauling off some of those tv show sides. says dont beleive all you see:D hes busy up there hauling logs for the paper mill, no money in lumber right now

[fishhuntcutwood]

Is no one watching any more?

They took down a sweet 64" dbh spruce tonight. They got the jack out....but the jack didn't jack, so they had to wedge it over. Guy said he hadn't had to use it in 20 years.

[lumberjack]

I watched it.

I figured they'd have a spare window for the roof of the buncher. I can't (or don't) believe lexan costs that much, although it's been a while since I ordered any.

They sure do domino alot of trees, at least for the cameras :)

[xtremetrees]

Yeah that lawn dart breaking thru the bullet proof glass (lexan carl?)on the roof of the feller buncher was hairy. The reason nobody makes movies about nasty dead removals is noone wants to be the camerman!

[MasterBlaster]

Damn! I forgot to watch!

[Al Smith]

Damn! I forgot to watch! Not to worry because they show the previous weeks episode before the current weeks airs .


I caught the stolen rope deal at 9 followed by the harvester spearing at 10 last night . Geeze that hydraulic saws nips 30 inchs of fir in three seconds . I can't do that well with the Mini Mac :roll:

[stehansen]

I fell asleep.

[GASoline71]

I skipped it...

Iron Chef America was on Food Network... :evil4:

Gary

[gf beranek]

I'm missing out. Guess I'll have to order the DVD set.

Least that way I'll be qualified to ah....... whatever...

[MasterBlaster]

Now they have a new series coming out about oil workers. Meh.

[GASoline71]

Its gettin to the point where all the cool jobs are gonna look ridiculous with a bunch of drama queens...

Honestly... it's why I have not watched one episode of Axe Men.

Gary

[sotc]

sme guy from the show named peels was on the radio for an interview today

[Al Smith]

Once again that thing has been "dramatized " to the max .

If nothing else though it is very evident to me, a flat lander ,why the west coasters use long bars . I can't imagine cutting in such a jumbled up mess like that .Good grief what a goobered up mess that is .

Now the actual show and various reruns air several times a week if you missed them the first go around .

[fishhuntcutwood]

Meh, those drama queens can go to hell. I'll drop 'em myself.

Today. 130' Big thump! :D (God, I love big thumps!!!)

This one, and the other four acres I cleared today to clear up a view of Sequim Bay for some friends of mine. Mostly sh!t sticks, but a couple of nice trees in there.

[vharrison]

Jeff, is the fanny pack a first aid kit?

[fishhuntcutwood]

Yes ma'am. First aid, duct tape, fire extinguisher, scrench, stump vise, files, level, plumb bob. And off my left hip, wedges and Spencer tape.

[MasterBlaster]

Fire extinguisher?

[sotc]

sounds like fun jeff!

[fishhuntcutwood]

Fire extinguisher?

Yeah it's more for summer cutting, but working in brush you can ignite the dry stuff. They sell them in Bailey's and at saw shops out here. It's why we make sure to have spark arrestors on our mufflers too.

[MasterBlaster]

It must be tiny!

[squisher]

Cool Jeff.

Any of the fire extinguisher's I've had to carry aren't the 'charged' type they're just a little squirt bottle full of chemical.

[MasterBlaster]

Alright, five minutes til the next new show...

[MasterBlaster]

Crikey! The young un don't know how to adjust his chain?

[lumberjack]

Those two yarder operator's need to wipe the dew off their lilly and get to logging.

Aside from 5-15 minutes following a concusion, or 3-6 hours following a bender, I've never been too sick to think clearly enough to throw levers while sitting on my ass. I've never called in sick to work, including when I broke my wrist.

Now the bitches on the rigging crew find problems with Bill instead of STFU and logging. Now they're going elk hunting, I'd fire the lot of them.

[MasterBlaster]

I wanna run a Feller Buncher!!! :rockon:

[lumberjack]

Ha I was thinking the same thing!

[Paul B]

how bout a delimber / debarker? :)

[MasterBlaster]

I can't believe what they just did setting that choker.

I mean, yes I would do that if I only had to do that once in a year...

But geez!

[okietreedude]

is it just me or is that stump branch dude unsafe? throwing that choking cable seems to waste more time than it saves. Hed be better off w/ a big shot and having the guys pull the line downhill by hand.

I thought the same of those whiners wanting to elk hunt. why not go full time and Ill find someone that wants to work. After this show, i bet there will be guys beating down doors to work up there saying 'I can do better than those fools on tv'. they may get their chance.

too, why do the yarder ops not wear buckets?

[lumberjack]

The jammer logging proved to be quite effecient last time.

Most equipment operators don't have to wear a hard hat if they are under FOPS. Notice the feller buncher operator didn't wear one either. Normally if it makes it through the FOPS, you're fawked.

You're not required to wear a seatbelt unless you're under ROPS, for what it's worth.

[sotc]

yall underestimate the power of elk season:D

[fishhuntcutwood]

I fell asleep after the kid threw the chain. I was like "Wha?......" How can any guy on a logging crew not know how to tighten a chain?

And I've thought the same thing about these guys-what a bunch of wusses. Yeah, they bust their asses in the bush, but those dudes are well enough to drive home, but not enough so to throw levers and hear the bells? They do alot of bitching, and Jesse Browning has a temper and tries to overcompensate for his shortcomings with anger. Something goes wrong and he throws his helmet and says he doesn't want to log anymore. Hell, I've got broken helos every day and you just deal with it and move on. Don't melt down and make a huge deal out of it.

[fishhuntcutwood]

It must be tiny!


Yeah less than a foot long, about a pound.

http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=17853&catID=132

[MasterBlaster]

I fell asleep after the kid threw the chain. I was like "Wha?......" How can any guy on a logging crew not know how to tighten a chain?


I like how they said "the saw wouldn't run," lol!

[fishhuntcutwood]

I noticed that. His saw was "shot." Damn saws!

[TreeDr]

Ha Ha, yuckmouth!!:lol:

[Ax-Man]

I didn't get a chance to watch Sunday's prime time show. I much prefer to catch the reruns on On Demand that way I can get through the show without having to watch the commercials.

I got a question.

Are some of these outfits in some sort of union by chance ??? I am sure the Stump Branch outfit isn't. How about the others like Browning, Gustafson, and Phil.

I hope the History Channel isn't paying these guys to be on TV. I don't think they are but I bet they are getting paid for radio and TV guest spots. What a waste.

My daughter watched an episode with me for awhile. She was wondering why those guys weren't at least wearing safety glasses. :O

[MasterBlaster]

I hope the History Channel isn't paying these guys to be on TV.


Ye gods man, if Nick can make ten grand for a three second commercial spot just imagine what those knuckleheads are pulling down! :\:

[squisher]

Well I'd sure as hell like to see this show there's no utube nothing out on it yet?

[MasterBlaster]

Sure, you can go to the History Channel and view entire episodes, I think.

[squisher]

I dunno I could only see it for sale on there as a DVD set?


And I sure as hell ain't buying it! Lol espescially from your guys's review I should buy a yarder and make my own show. Except I'd need a cooler name like that Nosak guy.

[MasterBlaster]

Maybe so...

DON'T buy it, lol!

[fishhuntcutwood]

My daughter watched an episode with me for awhile. She was wondering why those guys weren't at least wearing safety glasses. :O

Helmets...that's about it. The one dude wears Bugz. I think the view of PPE varies greatly between arbos and loggers. Climbers pride themselves on their safety and PPE. Loggers tend to either not give it a second thought, or rebel against it altogether. I know a guy who won't wear hearing protection because it's "unsafe."

[stehansen]

I hope the History Channel isn't paying these guys to be on TV. I don't think they are but I bet they are getting paid for radio and TV guest spots. What a waste.

I'll bet they get comped gear from Husky and Oregon.

[MasterBlaster]

The crippled hand guy gets his saw stolen tonight.

[Ax-Man]

I am sure he can replace it. He is the kingpin of the Browning empire.

I finally watched last weeks episode in it's entirity. Kept falling asleep after about 15 to 20 minutes into watching it.

I got a kick out of that saw operator with the shot saw that works for Stump Branch. Looks like he got his bar bent bucking those logs on the landing. He got the bar straightened and then started pounding his chain into it with a scrench. Then the darn thing wouldn't turn the chain so now his saw is shot:lol: Now I don't feel so bad when I get a saw pinched after watching some of these guys. Looks like the pro's make mistakes every now and then also.

Husky's and J-Reds seem to be the prefered saw with most of those guys.

From what I have gathered from the show I think I would starve to death being a logger. Seems the average price for a load of logs is about a $1000 bucks. That just don't seem like it is enough after seeing what goes into making a load with the first step being the cutting of the trees by the fallers.
Then comes the sky line and crew to get those trees up to the landing. Then you have the accessory equipment like those loaders and the dozer. Then comes the semi truck to haul the logs to the mill. With all the labor and running that much equipment and the maintenance that goes into those machines looks like you would be in the operating in the red. I don't know how much time it takes to make a truckload of logs to go to the mill but some of those small trees they have been pulling out sure don't look like they would make a truckload very fast.

[MasterBlaster]

It looks like tonight's episode is to see how many times they can get bleeped.

[Monkeywithasaw]

is it me or does j m browning have the claw on both hands at times

[lumberjack]

I noticed that as well. When he was talking about tell ole dude to get his hand out of the pulley, the tore up hand was his left. When he was hammering the wedge in, it was his right.



Can someone elaborate the use/function/purpose of the stroke delimber/grapple compared to a knuckle boom fitted with a delimber and saw?

[IchWarriorMkII]

is it me or does j m browning have the claw on both hands at times

He made the comment his hand/arm was hurting him. So I wonder if he threw it on his other arm to hammer the wedge, since he obviously does not carry a wedge driving device :lol:

[MasterBlaster]

That's what I was thinking, too.

[lumberjack]

He was holding the saw with his left hand, although his thumb/finger might be strong enough to do that.

[cuttenwolf]

of all the episodes only one has kept my attention

[wiley_p]

I noticed that as well. When he was talking about tell ole dude to get his hand out of the pulley, the tore up hand was his left. When he was hammering the wedge in, it was his right.



Can someone elaborate the use/function/purpose of the stroke delimber/grapple compared to a knuckle boom fitted with a delimber and saw?

Having a dangle processing head allows more mobility, and you make your deck. The stroke delimbers need a deck already made to get the most production. Also I have seen guys harvest with a danglehead rig, kind of wild but it works on small diameter stuff.

[wiley_p]

And the true versatility is you can take the danglehead off, and put a log grapple on, or a bucket, stumpgrinder head, etc.

[lumberjack]

I get the dangle head bit (has the tires that run the log delimbing and cutting to length?) but not the however long arm that slides in and out as opposed to a knuckle boom setup.

[MasterBlaster]

Anyone watch this "best of" episode? It'a about the only one that you really need to see.

[fishhuntcutwood]

Meh, started to watch it...went outside to enjoy the warm evening and a beer-o.

[GASoline71]

I still have not watched a single episode...

Gary

[lumberjack]

I skipped it.

[MasterBlaster]

Well here we go again, a new episode in 12 minutes.

[Burnham]

Well here we go again, a new episode in 12 minutes.

More drama queens and other bs...the way I hear it anywho.

[MasterBlaster]

Frig it, I'm watching The Sopranos.

[Burnham]

Sad, that logging show might have been really interesting, but TV kills most everything.

I caught a couple of episodes of the Alaska Experiment while I was in travel status two weeks ago...no wonder Jeff is disgusted with it.

[brendonv]

It's a very "blahhhhhhhhh" show for sure.

[MasterBlaster]

but TV kills most everything.

Nah, it wasn't the TV that killed that show. Right now my TV is showing me a rerun of The Sporanos, and it's a good episode. Again, the TV had nothing to do with it being good.

[Burnham]

OK, the business of TV does the killing then...same same in my book.

[fishhuntcutwood]

I just like watching them cut trees down. About the only character I like on the show is Levi Brown who works for Stump Branch (the jammer logging guy). He's a faller, and I haven't heard him whine or talk BS on anything yet. I think he's about the only one who hasn't queened up the show. The hook-hand guy is cool, and so is the guy who cut his way out of his yard. But the rest are drunks and/or whiners who like the camera.

My least favorite is Leland the hook operator. I'd fire him yesterday.

[Chisel Tooth]

I think my favorite is Melvin Lardy.

[stehansen]

That big storm they were showing last night, was that the winter before last when SOTC was so busy?

[sotc]

probably, cant keep track:dur: and havent seen the show yet

[William Greene]

that storm did away with this one:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o8/WILLIAMFGREENE/OREGON013.png (http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o8/WILLIAMFGREENE/OREGON013.png)

[MasterBlaster]

No shit? Sad.

[sotc]

broke at 70' or some such, supposedly very rotton

[gf beranek]

Most those big spruce are standing shells. My experience with them anyway.

On another note I took a couple of days and went with Steve VanHorn to video him falling some big second growth, and a few residual old growth. A skid cat was there working right behind him. Most of the residual old growth was rotten. Lots of sawing for little scale there. But the second growth held true to form and was all sound. Some had 5 thousand BF.

Edited out 3 hours of video into one hour and it turned out pretty darn good. Talk about Axe-men, Steve VanHorn most certainly is one.

[MasterBlaster]

Any new vids to speak of, Jerry?

[gf beranek]

Yeah, I have a couple. "Back Yard Logger" is one. It's about a friend, Rick Hautala, logging his cousins place. Right up against the house. Not your typical tree job in someones yard, but real honest to goodness full scale logging and pull trees. Nothing very big though. Cept one tree about 4 foot that divided into five at head high.

And then the one I just mentioned. It's called "Pardini Logging" For the logger who's actually doing the job.

I have an offer go out in the morning with a friend who told me of some nice trees he's got to fall in Albion. But permission for me to get out on that job may quash it. So that's to be seen. Though I understand some of the trees on that job are quite substantial. Another video moment.

[NeTree]

This thread got my hands itchy.... had to go out back and kill a tree just to relieve it.

C'mon with the vids Gerry...

;)

[gf beranek]

Lets see,,, I can put "Cliff Hanger, Backyard Logger and Pardini Logging" on one DVD. That would equate to a little over two hours of timber falling and logging on one disk.

For Tree House members $10, plus shipping. $12 bugs total.

[NeTree]

Sweet!

[MasterBlaster]

Give us that shipping address again please!

[gf beranek]

You mean billing address?

Beranek Publications
PO Box 251
Ft. Bragg, Ca
95437

[Skwerl]

Thanks Jerr, check is in the mail. :)

[squisher]

Cool!

[Ax-Man]

This show must have really sucked. No recap when the final supposedly grand finale aired about two weeks back.

I'll put the last word in. Good Ridense and Goodbye and hope we don't have a repeat next year. What a let down this show was.

Jerry's vids and books contain a hell of alot more action and information than this show could ever produce.

I even borrowed from Jerry's vid by using a jack. Not to fell a tree but split a big ugly windthrown Oak stump last summer so we could get it down to the level for the stump grinder to take over. If I hadn't of watched Jerry's vid I don't think I would have come up with the idea of using a jack. After watching how the pro's use one it was a piece of cake and kept the saws out of the dirt and crude.

[MasterBlaster]

It was pretty pitiful.

[squisher]

Never saw it at all(no tv) but sounds like I didn't miss anything. That's to bad they lamed it up because logging is alot of fun and alot of cool stuff goes down.

[stehansen]

It was interesting to me to find out how they get the logs up the hill.

[GASoline71]

There are too many "work drama" reality shows on TV anymore. I think the general TV watchin' public is starting to get weary of them.

It all started with American Chopper, American Hotrod, and then Deadliest Catch and Dirty Jobs came along... Those 4 were successful. All the ones they've tried since then have not done as good. Axe Men just plain sucked from what I've heard. Seein' i never watched a single episode. :)

Ice Road Truckers was decent, but now there is a new one starting on oil rig workers... when will it end. :what:

Gary

[squisher]

Rig pigs? Now there's gonna be an exciting show :roll:

[treesandsurf]

Are they ending the series??

jp:D

[MasterBlaster]

Gawd I hope so!


when will it end. :what:

I heard there's another one coming out about 7-11 cashiers.

[mryb]

Gawd I hope so!



I heard there's another one coming out about 7-11 cashiers.

Im sitting on the edge of my chair waiting for Walmart greeters to come out. I probably wont be on here much till the series is over...Rick