View Full Version : Double braid using brion toss method
12-11-2007, 05:48 AM
hey wondered if the lengths of doing double braid using brion toss's method are safe to climb off since they are slightly shorter than samsons method?? thanks
12-11-2007, 10:05 AM
Yes they are safe to climb on. Are you sure they are shorter? I don't have the directions in front of me, but aren't the toss directions longer? I thought samson has you make the first mark at 1 fid length (which is about 21 rope diameters) and toss has you make that mark at 24 rope diameters.
12-11-2007, 05:43 PM
thanks for that im not sure i though i heard someone say they were shorter but must be mistaken. cheers
12-12-2007, 06:36 PM
I just looked at this the other day. I do believe Nick is correct that Brion Toss's directions call for a slightly longer bury.
12-13-2007, 04:25 PM
so it would probably be better to use this splice rather than samsons instructions. which have people found easier to follow??
12-13-2007, 05:16 PM
Brion Toss's directions are much more intuitive and easy to follow and yield a cleaner splice (you don't make marks on the rope with a sharpie).
Either will give you a clean splice.
12-13-2007, 06:06 PM
I recommend Brion Toss's directions. They are much easier to understand.
12-13-2007, 06:14 PM
The first time I tried splicing double braid, I used the New England Ropes directions (posted on their website) and had no difficulties at all. Most double braids are very easy due to the loose weave of the rope.
I did buy the wand and broke it on the very first splice I tried with it. Was trying to splice 16 strand arbo rope and the wand wasn't long enough to do the bury in one shot anyway. I ended up throwing it away (after taking out my frustrations on the stupid, overpriced thing) and went back to using a coat hanger. For the last 5 years I've found it easier to simply order the 16 strand already spliced, but double braid can be done quickly and easily even with well used rope. And I'm not a splicer by any stretch of the imagination.
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