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Peter
08-26-2013, 02:44 PM
Any leads?

Want a good, running example, not interested in cosmetics. Will take a chance on ebay if no-one has a lead on one.

MasterBlaster
08-26-2013, 02:50 PM
Are you gonna start milling, or have you found some Redwoods over there?

:>)

Peter
08-26-2013, 03:14 PM
Both! Actually sold all the timber from this tree, but hopefully have some more coming up.

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MasterBlaster
08-26-2013, 03:18 PM
Yea, I think I'd like an 090 for that sucker, for sure! Good luck!

woodworkingboy
08-26-2013, 06:01 PM
An 076 doesn't suffer much when compared, if you can find one. Very very durable saw.

flushcut
08-27-2013, 11:14 PM
I would think an 090G would be about the ideal milling saw, but how about a 3120 or a 880?

MasterBlaster
08-27-2013, 11:43 PM
:thumbup:

Peter
08-28-2013, 01:37 AM
880 would be second choice, nothing quite matches an 090 for power and torque for milling though.

Plus it's a cool saw to have in the collection.

woodworkingboy
08-28-2013, 03:46 AM
I have milled a lot of wood with 076s, both double powerheads and a single on. Not exactly the power of an 090, but if you can't find the 090, but the 075 or 076 is available, you won't suffer much. I think it is 111 ccs? The guy that built my mill , Sperber mills, supplied 076's with it, I think he gave a reason over the 090s. After close to thirty years the saws still run solid, or one does, I did something stupid with the other. Subsequently I acquired another one, I have run them hard, full days of milling in very hot weather...no problemo! A fine falling saw for big wood as well. I have an 090G, and have milled with it. Lots of torque, but slow chain speed, being a gear reduced saw. It is also a VERY heavy saw, and with that little can for a muffler, quite loud. I like the 076 better for milling, very reliable for infrequent use, it will always start. If you do get one, some of them came without a decomp, especially the earlier 075. :|: I also have an 880, but with the 076, there is no need to stick the 880 on the mill. It mostly sits looking pretty and unused. All superfluous information if you are set on an 090, Good luck in your search.

Peter
08-28-2013, 05:22 AM
Thanks Jay, all good info. I suppose the real reason I want an 090 is because its the biggest, and an icon of big timber falling. (But mostly because its the biggest)

Perhaps I'll look for an 076 too.....

flushcut
08-28-2013, 06:48 AM
Thanks Jay, all good info. I suppose the real reason I want an 090 is because its the biggest, and an icon of big timber falling. (But mostly because its the biggest)

Perhaps I'll look for an 076 too.....

If you are talking "big timber icons" how about a Mac 125 or a Disston maybe a Titan perhaps ;) either way I wish you luck in finding a 090.

CurSedVoyce
08-28-2013, 07:18 AM
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Cut4fun
08-28-2013, 02:07 PM
Just in case this might be a 3rd choice. I got a stock 084 that came in and taking up a lot of shelf space. Starts, runs, cuts like it suppose to. I cant find anything wrong to tell about.

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Peter
08-28-2013, 02:59 PM
How much including to ship to UK?

Cut4fun
08-28-2013, 03:06 PM
How much including to ship to UK?

I bet shipping will be a killer. It cost $110 to mail a small 346 to Australia.

You want a price with the like new 30" es bar and 404 chain or just PHO powerhead only?

I'm thinking bar would be best in a separate box if so.

Cut4fun
08-28-2013, 03:14 PM
Max box that can go out now. Max. length 60", max. length plus girth combined 108"

Peter
08-28-2013, 03:21 PM
PHO

Cut4fun
08-28-2013, 03:32 PM
PHO

PM with guess on total weight and box size sent. Could be up or down a little on shipping guesstimate.

Al Smith
08-29-2013, 04:34 PM
If you are going to rip that monster of a tree into lumber you are looking at a tremendous amount of work with a chainsaw .Even with a portable band sawmill it would be a duanting task plus you'd still need to rip down small enough to fit in the mill .

Peter
08-29-2013, 04:58 PM
Always avoided chainsaw milling for that very reason, tried it once 15 years ago and decided it wasnt my thing. However I would like to make one or two things on a smaller scale, I have some nice cedar sat in the yard begging to be turned into an outdoor table and bench set.

woodworkingboy
08-29-2013, 07:40 PM
Milling is a funny bird. It can go smoothly or there can be a lot of down time for one reason or another.....hitting stuff or mill/saw problems. Murphy's law really seems to apply. I think the biggest redeeming factor is that you can take a mill to the tree location, it doesn't have to be the reverse. If you have the time to mill, the slabs do stack up. If it is good material, and especially if the wood is only obtainable by milling, I think it is well worth it. I think a double powehead type with two friends doing it, maybe splitting the results, is a good way to go. A surplus of power and in sync does indeed help. One person can mill with a double powerhead, but I wouldn't recommend it. :|: Heavy awkward weight, getting on and off the log verges on dangerous.

Al Smith
08-29-2013, 08:10 PM
I tried a little bit of chainsaw milling using both a Mac 125 and that 2100 Homelite in my avatar .Both of them have oodles of power but in 18" oak I could only get about a foot a minute at best .The planks came out smoother than if they had been cut with a circular saw but it certainly was lot of work .

squisher
08-29-2013, 08:30 PM
I enjoy chainsaw milling. I just don't have a lot of time for it.

flushcut
09-01-2013, 04:26 PM
I tried a little bit of chainsaw milling using both a Mac 125 and that 2100 Homelite in my avatar .Both of them have oodles of power but in 18" oak I could only get about a foot a minute at best .The planks came out smoother than if they had been cut with a circular saw but it certainly was lot of work .

I milled up some 26" red oak that was 24'6" or 25', can't remember, into 4" slabs for a foot bridge and each cut was a full tank of gas running a 385 at about a foot a minute. They turned out nice but haven't really milled anything sense.

squisher
09-01-2013, 04:29 PM
I find it very satisfying to mill up wood I've downed. My tack room floor is all nice fir that I took from standing to its current use. Gives one a true feeling of independence.

woodworkingboy
09-01-2013, 04:33 PM
a true feeling of independence.

Never thought of it in quite those terms, but it is true. When you stop and think of the nice things that you can do with just one slab of good wood, a mill is really a productive device.

squisher
09-01-2013, 04:47 PM
For you more than most I think Jay. I was happy to make a tack room floor. My wood skills are limited but still the same I find it very satisfying.

FJR
09-01-2013, 05:44 PM
What kind of price range would you guys expect for an 090 in good condition? I know of one locally that is for sale with a price tag of $780 and it comes with a new 48" bar.

brendonv
09-01-2013, 06:39 PM
I could not magine running a cs mill. Looks tiring. I hire a mobile mill, ive sided my house with trees ive cur, and now working on the garage. It feels great to know the tree, and put it to use. The pine im using is the first trees i cut with my bucket truck. Ahh memories.

flushcut
09-01-2013, 06:40 PM
Wow that's a good price I see them on average go for 2g's +. Hell fred buy the bad boy and put it on Ebay.

woodworkingboy
09-01-2013, 07:32 PM
In good condition, that seems like a winner price. Parts are pretty much still available, I think. Sprockets, probably not.

bonner1040
09-01-2013, 07:43 PM
$780 is less than a new MS461, and I dont even know where to find 4' bars around where I live.

Peter
09-02-2013, 01:52 AM
Buy it and ship it to me, I'll pay you a decent finders fee.

FJR
09-02-2013, 06:55 AM
The saw is on craigslist. Peter, I would be happy to send the saw to you if I can get my hands on it. I sent an email to the seller and I will let you know what comes of it.

flushcut
09-02-2013, 05:34 PM
Once again The House is on it. Outstanding!

Tucker943
09-02-2013, 07:45 PM
I tried a little bit of chainsaw milling using both a Mac 125 and that 2100 Homelite in my avatar .Both of them have oodles of power but in 18" oak I could only get about a foot a minute at best .The planks came out smoother than if they had been cut with a circular saw but it certainly was lot of work .

A linear foot or board foot? If you are talking linear foot in 18" oak, something wasn't right.

Al Smith
09-02-2013, 08:18 PM
Might not be right to you but just ask anyone cutting dry red oak ripping 18" thick exactly how fast they go .FWIW another gent in upstate NY using a 797 Mac gets the same speed .A 797 and a 125 have about the same power .

Al Smith
09-02-2013, 08:36 PM
Well here's a picture of it .The planks in the other pic are 4 by 12's 8 feet long but they were cut from an 18 inch log and squared on a table saw and weigh a freakin ton .

Tucker943
09-02-2013, 10:03 PM
A foot a minute seems slow is all. High or low rpm saw? I don't have any knowledge of those older muscles saws. Although dry wood has a way of taking the wind out of ones sails.

squisher
09-03-2013, 10:59 PM
Ripping/milling chain is slow. That's how the cut ends up so smooth.

Al Smith
09-04-2013, 06:44 AM
A foot a minute seems slow is all. High or low rpm saw? I don't have any knowledge of those older muscles saws. Although dry wood has a way of taking the wind out of ones sails.

I wouldn't classify them as slow probabley around 10,000 WOT .Keep in mind though you set them up a tad rich when milling/ripping because 10 minutes or more depending can really heat them up .

Wiemie(Walter ) up in NY state made some long cuts that took 25 minutes with a 797 .The longest I ever heard of was in Oregon .

On a covered bridge restoration project Rich Dougan AKA "Sawking" cut spome huge timbers out of I thing douglas fir .The people who make the Alaska mill supplied the rig,Rich the saw which was a souped 090 .Those timbers were so long they had to gas the saw several time to just make one cut .I tried to find the vid of it but couldn't .

woodworkingboy
09-04-2013, 08:54 AM
I'd have to look it up to be sure, but I think the 090G is geared down to 7000 rpms. Some slow muscle there.

Al Smith
09-04-2013, 09:00 AM
Believe it or not when I looked up how to set the governer on an 090 G it says to crank it out to 10,000 WOT for the initial setting .As you say though I think they are set to run at less .Probabley why they last forever .

Al Smith
09-04-2013, 09:04 AM
Oh I just remembered .Some years back at a GTG I ran one of Ken Dunns master pieces souped 090 .That thing had to be running at over 12 thou because it would really boogey .Fastest 090 I ever ran .

Cut4fun
09-04-2013, 02:07 PM
Fastest 090 I have seen to date being run by 70plus year old feller. I also seen the one Al is talking about that was woods ported.

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Al Smith
09-04-2013, 08:26 PM
A little off the subject but I've not heard how it's turned out for a few who were trying an 090 cylinder on a 3120 lower end .