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Cut4fun
12-28-2012, 01:12 PM
Larry works at stihl dealer and said a new chain is out 63PS. :D That would be the 63PS3 chisel chain without the safety bumpers. Sweeeet

63PS picco 3/8LP chisel.


Hey guys,

New chain in town "Stihl 63PS"

No safety links.

emr
12-28-2012, 04:01 PM
Can you put that in laymen terms? I know what chains to buy for my saws and I know how to sharpen those chains. That is where my chain knowledge ends.

What is a safety link?

Cobleskill
12-28-2012, 04:15 PM
Safety chain has the extra hump ahead of the rakers. It kinda sucks. Anybody else had trouble with it as it wears down? I have ground the safety humps right off and still had grief.

MasterBlaster
12-28-2012, 04:36 PM
My sawguy know NOT to give me any stinking safety chain.

Tucker943
12-28-2012, 04:58 PM
I'll co-sign what Butch said. Id horsewhip my saw dealer if they handed me over that stuff. No semi chisel chain either.

woodworkingboy
12-28-2012, 05:55 PM
Some safety chain is just that the drive link is the same piece as the raker, there is no extra bump. it isn't as bad as the type with the ramps. I think they claim that such chain has less vibration as well. More than a few folks are probably using safety chain and don't know it. I prefer non-safety myself as well.

Cobleskill
12-28-2012, 06:19 PM
When I found a 200T on the shelf this spring it had a 14" bar and safety chain on it. They wanted $605. I told them I wanted a 16" and non safety. They looked for quite a while and then told me I could have it for $575 like it was. Sold. It actually has cut OK so far.

bonner1040
12-28-2012, 06:36 PM
At Big Green we only have two kinds of chain, big safety chain and little safety chain. No skip.half skip, nothing.

Cobleskill
12-28-2012, 06:38 PM
Any particular brand and how do you find it cuts?

bonner1040
12-28-2012, 06:46 PM
All STIHL brand. It cuts fine when you dont have anything to compare it too.

swingdude
12-28-2012, 08:46 PM
Dang I used to use that safety chain till I was told that it was safety chain. That was in the past, now I just pass on safety chain. It's the yellow stuff for me all from the 200t to the 660....., it's a hell of a difference.

swingdude
12-28-2012, 08:53 PM
Now what is the deal with this 63PS...... seeing that it is not safety chain......

CurSedVoyce
12-28-2012, 09:20 PM
Bought two loops of it and the dealer had not even heard of it :lol:
Ran me almost 50 clams. Stihl have yet to put a loop on the 200T. Had a new loop of LP Carlton to use first already on the saw. Maybe I'll tag a nail or something.

emr
12-28-2012, 09:29 PM
I will have to see what we have on our climbers. Stihl does green and yellow chains right? I thought green was safety and yellow is not. We always buy yellow...... I think.

Cut4fun
12-29-2012, 06:50 AM
Now what is the deal with this 63PS...... seeing that it is not safety chain......


I will have to see what we have on our climbers. Stihl does green and yellow chains right? I thought green was safety and yellow is not. We always buy yellow...... I think.

63PS3 green safety bumper like RS3 in picco

63PS yellow like RS in picco = new not even listed by distributors here yet to get for our dealers. I might buy a 25' to get it before the dealers again.

PS = round chisel cutters, not like PM that was semi chisel cutters.

greatoutdoors
01-03-2013, 10:42 PM
So this is different than the 3/8lp chisel they can out with last year? Full Chisel made a nice difference on my 020t/ms200t/ms201t's!

SouthSoundTree
01-04-2013, 09:58 AM
Pics would help so much.

I just buy Stihl round ground chisel aka flat top, full comp or skip.

I was surprised to find that square grind costs less than round grind. I gather that they make it square, then have to round grind it. At Parks we get square, but round file or round grind it once it needs it. Maybe $20-30 cheaper for a spool at Madsen's for Oregon.

We get the Oregon at my super's choosing in part because its locally/ American made, and in part because its softer, as we use our saw chain for metal detecting ;), and maybe its cheaper.

SouthSoundTree
01-04-2013, 10:03 AM
http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/chain/picco-38lp-round-chisel-cutter-chain/

Look what I found. Couple of you guys are part of the thread, so its not new news, but has good pics and stats.

Cut4fun
01-04-2013, 01:22 PM
http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/chain/picco-38lp-round-chisel-cutter-chain/

Look what I found. Couple of you guys are part of the thread, so its not new news, but has good pics and stats.

63PS is new not even released yet ;). 63PS3 in that thread with the safety bumpers and pics are from last year or year before. :lol:

Different chains PS yellow and PS3 green. ;)

SouthSoundTree
01-04-2013, 04:48 PM
OH. I'm sick, my chain (brain) is dull at the moment. I missed little details.

So the safety bumpers there, on the PS3 green, are not the big 'safety chain' bumpers found on some other bigger saw chains.

Is the green/ yellow designation shown with the master link when the loop is formed, or is it just a designation that is on the packaging?

Cut4fun
01-04-2013, 05:30 PM
Yes. green yellow strap shown on chains

IMO for my uses the little safety bumpers dont bother the cut or bore cutting on the PS3. If you look at the timed cuts with PS3 it was smoking everything I ran against it and is why it's on my pole saw now too. I want the cut over with soon as possible lifting that puppy up and extended.

It was the only one to buy when I got the PS3 in chisel, given a choice I would buy PS next. ;):D

Al Smith
01-07-2013, 05:00 AM
With a pole saw you need all the help you can get .My el cheapo Poulan really needs a boost .

CurSedVoyce
01-07-2013, 11:28 AM
I'll have to get some for my pole saw....

brendonv
05-07-2013, 03:31 PM
I ordered a roll of 63PM.

Picked it up it's 63 PS. Should I switch, or run it?

flushcut
05-08-2013, 08:42 AM
Run it.

Cut4fun
05-08-2013, 01:37 PM
I ordered a roll of 63PM.

Picked it up it's 63 PS. Should I switch, or run it?

So the 63PS is finally being sold :dance: or is it PS3?

brendonv
05-08-2013, 05:05 PM
Nope, 63PS. No safety straps, can get you the number off the box if you want.

stig
05-09-2013, 09:36 AM
I just got some of that.
Best cutting chain I've ever run on my T200s.
I traded the extra loops of 63PS3, I had on the shelf back to the dealer for some of the PS.

I think if I had a brand new apprentice, I'd keep some of the safety type on a saw for him to stert out with, but Martin has about 2000 hours of chainsaw running under his belt now, so no worries there.

brendonv
05-09-2013, 12:14 PM
Any tips for sharpening, Stig? Or just run it like the PM

Cut4fun
05-09-2013, 12:47 PM
Nope, 63PS. No safety straps, can get you the number off the box if you want.

Please do. Thanks.

Heck I havent even used up my roll of PS3 up I bought.

brendonv
05-09-2013, 01:57 PM
3617 005 1640 63PS

brendonv
05-09-2013, 01:58 PM
I'm anxious to try a loop now

stig
05-09-2013, 02:02 PM
Any tips for sharpening, Stig? Or just run it like the PM

No difference.

Cut4fun
05-09-2013, 02:23 PM
3617 005 1640 63PS

Thanks :thumbup:

Cut4fun
06-26-2013, 01:27 PM
With a pole saw you need all the help you can get .My el cheapo Poulan really needs a boost .

Al I picked up a loop of 45dl and 56dl to compare PS to PS3 on my 338 or smaller rear handle saw.

Now if oregon or carlton would catch up with the game.

Cut4fun
07-03-2013, 06:14 PM
Just use a friends info to show you.


The new Stihl chain on the Husky 338xpt.
The same chain is on the scale, weighing in at 169 grams for a 52dl's


http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac273/jwalken/sept%2010/DSC_0025-2.jpg (http://s907.photobucket.com/user/jwalken/media/sept%2010/DSC_0025-2.jpg.html)


The Stihl bumper style chain on the Jonsered 2139.
The same chain is on the scale, weighing in at 180 grams for a 52dl's


http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac273/jwalken/sept%2010/DSC_0013.jpg (http://s907.photobucket.com/user/jwalken/media/sept%2010/DSC_0013.jpg.html)

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ClimbMIT
07-06-2013, 11:18 AM
Would 63PS be a good choice for a Stihl MS 192tc? Would I need a yellow label bar?

Cut4fun
07-06-2013, 01:21 PM
If your 192 is .043 gage 3/8LP you will need a different bar. Just grab a .050 3/8LP bar.

ClimbMIT
07-06-2013, 06:41 PM
If your 192 is .043 gage 3/8LP you will need a different bar. Just grab a .050 3/8LP bar.

I am good to go then. Thanks for responding!

Al Smith
07-06-2013, 07:20 PM
I'd be curious to know if bumperless is really any faster .Maybe a week ago I took both one of the 200T's and the 024 both with bumper type chisel for a test run .

I had never had the occasion to plunge cut with either saw .With the bumper type much to my amazement they shot right through a 12 inch round like a hot knife through butter.Regular cutting they both pull nice healthy big chips .

Now the 024 had a Stihl bumper type chisel on it when I got it and it didn't do so well .It's got Oregon on it now and does better .That thing is only like 42 cc or so .

Al Smith
07-06-2013, 07:26 PM
I just thought of something .Couple weeks ago at a GTG I had the stock 200T with Stihl bumper chisel whatever number it is .I chewed though a log toot sweet and several people asked if it was the "Super Bee" .They'd never seen small chisel on a small saw before .

Cut4fun
07-06-2013, 11:51 PM
I'd be curious to know if bumperless is really any faster .Maybe a week ago I took both one of the 200T's and the 024 both with bumper type chisel for a test run .

I had never had the occasion to plunge cut with either saw .With the bumper type much to my amazement they shot right through a 12 inch round like a hot knife through butter.Regular cutting they both pull nice healthy big chips .

Now the 024 had a Stihl bumper type chisel on it when I got it and it didn't do so well .It's got Oregon on it now and does better .That thing is only like 42 cc or so .

I got both now Al. Just no time to test stuff right now.

Maybe someday :dontknow:

stig
07-07-2013, 06:12 AM
I'd be curious to know if bumperless is really any faster .

It is not a question of faster or not, to me.

More a question of the bumper type becoming rather useless for boring after you've filed the rakers a couple of times.

Cut4fun
07-07-2013, 10:12 AM
I'm just curious how much bore type cutting up in a tree you guys do with top handle saws and picco 3/8LP chains.

stig
07-07-2013, 11:16 AM
Being the patron saint of borecutters, I bore cut everything!


No, you are right, not a whole lot.
So it is probably a moot point.

If I pop off a leaning top, I'll bore it to avoid having it split up or worse, down.

Bermy
07-11-2013, 06:08 PM
Being the acolyte of the short bar...yeah actually very rarely have I had to bore cut up in a tree, so bumpers/no bumpers probably isn't a problem, but if there is lots of work and the chain is being sharpened regularly then after a while the bumpers get tiresome. What Stig said, I sit to learn at his feet. (isn't that the definition of an acolyte?)

Cold Logging
08-13-2013, 04:40 PM
63PS3 green safety bumper like RS3 in picco

63PS yellow like RS in picco = new not even listed by distributors here yet to get for our dealers. I might buy a 25' to get it before the dealers again.

PS = round chisel cutters, not like PM that was semi chisel cutters.


I'm gonna find some and try it on the top handle saws I'm running.
Grinding my way thru a 5" dia 200 year old Sitka spruce limb with semi chisel chain on an under powered saw flat sucks.

Cold Logging
08-13-2013, 04:49 PM
It is not a question of faster or not, to me.

More a question of the bumper type becoming rather useless for boring after you've filed the rakers a couple of times.

Now there is something we definatly agree on.

Al, Oregon has a 3/8 pitch chain that has a bumper type depth gauge that is smooth boring but has a good chisel tooth geometry and it seems to cut as fast as say standard 75 CK but it is the only chain I've tried that does. All the other safety chains have reduced cutting performance in my experience.

Cut4fun
08-13-2013, 07:10 PM
I'm gonna find some and try it on the top handle saws I'm running.
Grinding my way thru a 5" dia 200 year old Sitka spruce limb with semi chisel chain on an under powered saw flat sucks.

I found a hook up for the 63PS loops made to order and shipped. So I didnt have to buy a roll of the PS like I did the PS3. If you cant find it let me know. He might not ship to you not knowing you, but I can help as a middle man if you cant find it.

Already ship 1 up your way to the east a hair.

Cold Logging
08-13-2013, 08:53 PM
So it's 3/8 .050 ga.

Cut4fun
08-14-2013, 08:27 AM
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