Bugs!

sotc · Mar 24, 2011

My client called about her golden deodar cedar and that it looked diseased. Looks like flat head borers to me but I have never seen them or even heard of them in a live cedrus. I think the tree is done for but she wants to try saving it. As of now the plan is to get some Safari in it early May and some Imidicloprid as soon as the tree starts putting on growth. I think the top will be browned out by the end of June but we can preventativly treat the others nearby.

Knotahippie · Mar 24, 2011

Hole's got the 'D' shape.

Looks like sapsucker to me, though.

sotc · Mar 24, 2011

The long channels?

stig · Mar 24, 2011

Probably from where the sapsuckers spurs kicked out and he slipped.

Knotahippie · Mar 24, 2011

Looks fairly typical, for the most part;

phloem flow is interrupted, dries and is shed by birds in a row-like pattern.

Would be my first guess.

Hard for me to tell by the photos, though.

MasterBlaster · Mar 24, 2011

LOL @ Stig.

:lol:

Paul B · Mar 24, 2011

I would vote woodpackers too Willie, the horizontal bands of holes is fairly characterisitc. However, there may be some larvae of some sort that they are eating unless they are sapsuckers and then they are just there to piss you off

CurSedVoyce · Mar 24, 2011

Poor thing being pecked to death

sotc · Mar 24, 2011

The sap sucker holes are pretty typical and rarely seem to be detrimental. The vertical channels seem more like other wood peckers chasing larvae to me...

thattreeguy · Mar 26, 2011

i was wondering, theres something attacking sitka spruce and deodor cedars here, even some firs...the grand....watch for the seepage of sap, i see sapsucker, but there could be something elses happening

SouthSoundTree · Mar 26, 2011

A bit of armchair advice here, and a little bit of sapsucker research.

Ask her to photograph the birds, then ID them. See if they are sap sucker wood peckers or insect eating wood peckers. I don't know much about the birds, but there are things that are meant to deter sapsuckers, like reflective tape.

Maybe see if there is a snag nearby that is their nesting spot. Might be illegal to get rid of nesting spot, though.

Seems like if they are only sapsuckers, then getting rid of the bugs with insecticide won't help, unless it kills the sapsuckers.

A bit of armchair advice here, and a little bit of sapsucker research.

If you deter them from this deodor, they might go after other trees. Sometimes sapsuckers stick to one tree, saving others from damage.

sotc · Mar 26, 2011

Sapsuckers don't bother me. But good idea on keeping an eye out to id other pecker heads, i'll mention it

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