Don't Be Afraid!!!!

[MasterBlaster]

Fear not the edit function, nor the SpellCheck application. (http://www.iespell.com/) Three out of five of my posts will be edited after I've read them and I've see my mistakes. My words and my work are a reflection of ME. Just like work, I try lead by example. I gladly welcome ANY advice ANYONE who sees the way I slap my words together and has advice. Seriously, PM me any critiques if you don't wanna merely quote my mistake and correct it for me. I would love that.

I know, I'm an anal beeyotch... but I'm also a grown, literate adult.

[woodworkingboy]

You left out being a prideful literate adult.

[MasterBlaster]

All Climbers are that way. :drink:

[woodworkingboy]

Climbers or people who won spelling bees in grammer school...I mean grammar school.

[Skwerl]

Only two typos in the first post, Butch. Not bad. ;)

[Dave Shepard]

Fear not the edit function, nor the SpellCheck application. (http://www.iespell.com/) Three out of five of my posts will be edited after I've read them and I've seen my mistakes. My words and my work are a reflection of ME. Just like work, I try to lead by example. I gladly welcome ANY advice ANYONE who sees the way I slap my words together and has advice. Seriously, PM me any critiques if you don't wanna merely quote my mistake and correct it for me. I would love that.

I know, I'm an anal beeyotch... but I'm also a grown, literate adult.


Corrections in bold, per your request.:)

I think you do a great job of assembling your posts, Butch. I try to do the best I can, but English was not my favorite subject in school.:/:

[Skwerl]

See? Dave picked them up as well. ;)

[brendonv]

"I've read them and I've see (n) my mistakes."


:)

I get sloppy when I'm excited.

[gf beranek]

Why were those mistakes? Grammar or misspell?

[Dave Shepard]

First is a tense thing, I believe, and the second, a missing word.

One could say "I see my mistakes", present tense, or "I've seen my mistakes", past tense.

Dang, do I sound like an English teacher or something? I am talking out my arse, you know?:lol:

[gf beranek]

Ah, past and present tense I get wrong a lot.

[MasterBlaster]

Those mistakes I made were typos. When I look back I can easily see then.

I'm talking about sentence structure and whatnot...

[CurSedVoyce]

I get sloppy when I'm excited.


HAHAHA

[MasterBlaster]

:)

I get sloppy when I'm excited.

Sure, me too, but I go back and fix it.

[Che]

I don't use proper grammar. I write how I think/speak.

If anyone wants to think less of me because of that I don't really care.

If it bothers you, I think corrections would be better if done in PMs instead of in the original post.

I don't think people's words should be tampered with, though.

Just my opinion.

[MasterBlaster]

I don't use proper grammar. I write how I think/speak.

You go, girl! :rockon:
If anyone wants to think less of me because of that I don't really care.

Not the point of my thread, Elana! :P

[CurSedVoyce]

:lol::lol::lol:

[CurSedVoyce]

Actually I do find it refreshing to find us constantly trying to improve ourselves in our written English here in this forum.:thumbup:

[Che]

Not the point of my thread, Elana!

Oh. OK.


BTW....it's Elena.















:P

[MasterBlaster]

http://i13.tinypic.com/4pv1ys0.gif

[Che]

http://i13.tinypic.com/4pv1ys0.gif

:lol:

[stig]

I'll second Butch on this one.
Please correct me, when I maul you beautiful language.
One reason my english works as well as it does, is that a lot of my american friends have taken the time to correct me over the years.
Anything that looks like a spelling error though, will likely be a typo.
My brain is a little autistic, when it comes to spelling, I automatically spell correctly in any of the languages, I know.
I took up Russian at one time, and the Cyrillic letters broke me.
For some reason, I was near to being dyslectic, when not using Latin letters.

Now if I could only get a good grip on these little fellows,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:(

[vharrison]

[QUOTE=MasterBlaster;323037]When I look back I can easily see then.

QUOTE]

Did you mean then or them?

[MasterBlaster]

Yea, I can't type for shit!

[pantheraba]

I'll second Butch on this one.
Please correct me, when I maul your beautiful language.
......
Anything that looks like a spelling error, though, will likely be a typo.
My brain is a little autistic, when it comes to spelling; I automatically spell correctly in any of the languages, I know.


Stig, you do an unbelievably fine job with English, trust me.

I "picked some nits" for you....

[Newfie]

This thread got me thinkin'. We complain about immigrants not adapting to our language, when frankly a giant segment of our so-called "American" population is functionally illiterate. Pot calling the kettle black.

Stig, your English is great. I was surprised you were from Denmark, since you have a mastery of colloquialisms and idiomatic structures.

I'm equally surprised that you had such difficulty with cyrillic. After all you are a dirty Commie!

[stig]

Stig, you do an unbelievably fine job with English, trust me.

I "picked some nits" for you....

Nits grow into lice!
So keep picking.
The first one is a typo, but the comma both before and after a word, has me baffled.
Semicolon is not used very much in danish, so I am not in the habit of using it at all. I do know the rules governing it's usage, though, and you are right about one fitting right in there.

[pantheraba]

The first one is a typo, but the comma both before and after a word, has me baffled.

I think this applies to your question:

"Anything that looks like a spelling error though, will likely be a typo."

The word "though" should be set-off with commas because it is not essential to the sentence.

3. Use a pair of commas in the middle of a sentence to set off clauses, phrases, and words that are not essential to the meaning of the sentence. Use one comma before to indicate the beginning of the pause and one at the end to indicate the end of the pause.

Here are some clues to help you decide whether the sentence element is essential:

* If you leave out the clause, phrase, or word, does the sentence still make sense?
* Does the clause, phrase, or word interrupt the flow of words in the original sentence?
* If you move the element to a different position in the sentence, does the sentence still make sense?

If you answer "yes" to one or more of these questions, then the element in question is nonessential and should be set off with commas. Here are some example sentences with nonessential elements:

Word: I appreciate your hard work. In this case, however, you seem to have over-exerted yourself.

"However" is not essential to the sentence.

[stig]

Thank you, that is most helpful.

[sotc]

more examples gary? that is very helpfull

[pantheraba]

more examples gary? that is very helpfull

More examples, Gary? That is very helpful(l).

Hahaha...now methinks you are baiting me, matey. :lol:

I donna wanna be a grammar Nazi. However, since you asked, my friend, I did correct your query. There is, in all fairness, a good chance that I have fallen into your subtle, but clever, trap. Oy vey :P

[Mr. Sir]

Hook, line, and sinker. ;)

[sotc]

naw, im not very good at grammer. just ask butch, i think sometimes, i drive him nuts! hows that for learning from your lesson?!

[CurSedVoyce]

:lol::lol::lol:

[MasterBlaster]

http://planetsuzy.org/images/smilies/angryslap.gif


http://www.thecomputermechanics.com/forums/images/smilies/lol01.gif

[CurSedVoyce]

I am starting to think he did that on purpose:readit:

[sotc]

I gladly welcome ANY advice ANYONE who sees the way I slap my words together and has advice. Seriously, merely quote my mistake and correct it for me.

Ok people, me to. This is gonna hurt:\: Only catch, you have to tell me why it's wrong so I can learn.

[Che]

Two members' changes come to mind, Carl and Magnus.

Carl, you were the only really young member worth reading in the past. Spelling was not so good...you do so well now. I agree, it comes across more professional.

Magnus. Wow. You always got your point across, but it was obvious that English wasn't your first language. It would be hard to tell now.

What happened to that Russian guy, I wonder?

I think it's disruptive to a thread to have grammar lessons popped in, though. My opinion, again.

[MasterBlaster]

But that's the point of this thread.

[MasterBlaster]

you have to tell me why its wrong so I can learn.


It's not "its," it's "it is," or "it's." It's a contraction.

:|:

[Che]

Good. So who was that Russian guy? I forget. Do you remember?

[MasterBlaster]

I forget his name, too.

[Che]

Quote: It's not "its," it's "it is," or "it's."

That sentence looks like it needs some work. :|:

[MasterBlaster]

Crazy sentence, eh? :lol:

[Che]

Lots of rules there that I don't think I know. Quotes vs single quotes? Commas in or outside the quote mark?

[MasterBlaster]

Inside, AFAIK.

[sotc]

It's not "its," it's "it is," or "it's." It's a contraction.
:|:
Shoot, i knew that, just missed it!
How about this post? You laughed hard so i must have screwed it up royally!


Naw, i'm not very good at grammer. Just ask butch, i think sometimes, i drive him nuts! Hows that for learning from your lesson?!
I just fixed 4 things in it. :dur:

[Thor's Hammer]

I'm equally surprised that you had such difficulty with cyrillic. After all you are a dirty Commie!

Mike, you crack me up. As always.:lol:

[pantheraba]

Ok people, me to. This is gonna hurt:\: Only catch, you have to tell me why it's wrong so I can learn.

OK, people, me to. Set "people" off with commas since you are addressing them directly, same as if you said, "OK, Mike, me too." Add an "o" to the word "to" at the end of the sentence...too means "also."

Only catch, you have to tell me why it's wrong so I can learn.
The word "it's" is "ok"..since you are showing the contraction "it is". If you wanted to show the possessive form of "it" you would write "its" without an apostrophe.

"The dog made its choice" would not have an apostrophe.

[sotc]

After thinking a minute, that makes sence. Because the dog does'nt make "it is" choice, it makes its choice.8)
Tell me more of to and too, if you're so inclined.:)

[Dave Shepard]

This place is awesome!:rockon:

[MasterBlaster]

Just remember that too = also.

I bet AS or TB don't have a Grammar Thread, LOL.

[sotc]

Too= also. Easy8)
I would'nt know about AS, I cant go check till when ever April 1st is:)

[stig]

OK, people, me to. Set "people" off with commas since you are addressing them directly, same as if you said, "OK, Mike, me too." Add an "o" to the word "to" at the end of the sentence...too means "also."

Only catch, you have to tell me why it's wrong so I can learn.
The word "it's" is "ok"..since you are showing the contraction "it is". If you wanted to show the possessive form of "it" you would write "its" without an apostrophe.

"The dog made its choice" would not have an apostrophe.Good stuff, I'm learning a lot here.
That whole "set off with commas" deal is something I have struggled with.

I haven't had any formal schooling in english since college,and there I managed to get myself expelled from english classes for over a year.

I bitched loudly and often about them insisting that we learn british english and proper ( propaaah.....actually!) british pronounciation, while at the same time having us work on texts by american writers like John Steinbeck.
I finally managed to be a big enough nuisance, and they tossed me out.

Ironically, only two years later it was officially decided to let students choose between american and british english.

I did take the graduation examination in english and made a straight A,just to prove I could do it.

[pantheraba]

After thinking a minute, that makes sence. Because the dog does'nt make "it is" choice, it makes its choice.8)
Tell me more of to and too, if you're so inclined.:)

OK....first, though..."since" and

doesn't. The apostrophe takes the place of the "o" in not for does not...therefore, doesn't. Also, or too, you sometimes see folks write "ya'll" which I see as incorrect. Y'all is a contraction for "you all" -- the apostrophe takes the place of "ou".

Here is the "to - too" homonym explanation:

To is a preposition which begins a prepositional phrase or an infinitive...such as "to the store" which denotes location which prepositions often do (in the car, around the limb, over the stump, under the rigging)

Too is an adverb meaning "excessively" or "also"...such as "too many trees to cut"...and "I have to cut that one, too".

You are a masochist, bro!!! :lol:

[pantheraba]

Good stuff, I'm learning a lot here.
That whole "set off with commas" deal is something I have struggled with.

I haven't had any formal schooling in english since college,and there I managed to get myself expelled from english classes for over a year.

I bitched loudly and often about them insisting that we learn british english and proper ( propaaah.....actually!) british pronounciation, while at the same time having us work on texts by american writers like John Steinbeck.
I finally managed to be a big enough nuisance, and they tossed me out.

Ironically, only two years later it was officially decided to let students choose between american and british english.

I did take the graduation examination in english and made a straight A,just to prove I could do it.

Hahaha, Stig, I can just hear that..."propaaah"...great phonetic spelling of a British accent.

As far as I know, the words "English, British and American" should be capitalized.

"I finally managed to be a big enough nuisance, and they tossed me out." I believe the comma after "nuisance" is superfluous since no pause is needed (which commas are often used to interject).

If you wanted to say, "I finally managed to be a big enough nuisance, they tossed me out and I skipped merrily all the way home." then the comma would be necessary to break up the two independent clauses and then you use the conjunction "and" to add the last independent clause about skipping home (though some of these brawling tree climbers are going to look at you askance when you start skipping along merrily too much). :lol:

Check this page for examples: http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000069.htm

[MasterBlaster]

Great website!

[stig]

Failing to put "English, British and American" in caps was simple sloppyness from me, sorry.( or is that "sloppiness"?)

One thing that makes the whole "comma" thing hard for me is that the rules in Danish are quite different.

In Danish I would have put a comma after "hard for me" because it separates two sentences that are complete in themselves; having each a separate verb.
By the same rule, a comma should be put after "separates two sentences".

I don't skip much after my last knee surgery, but this thread could make me do it.

Bedtime for me, now. Goodnight to y'all:D

[sotc]

The apostrophe takes the place of the "o" in not for does not...therefore, doesn't.



I thought it was separating 2 words.:|: I think i can remember that.


To is a preposition which begins a prepositional phrase or an infinitive...such as "to the store" which denotes location which prepositions often do (in the car, around the limb, over the stump, under the rigging)

http://mywhitepaw.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/dog20watching20television.jpg


You are a masochist, bro!!! :lol:

It's a bit overwhelming, but I am learning and getting a little less lazy. Forcing myself to do capitals where I remember I should. Thank you, by the way

[MasterBlaster]

Separate.

[sotc]

fixed

[MasterBlaster]

No, I was just showing you. You don't need to fix it.

[sotc]

Fear not the edit function, Three out of five of my posts will be edited after I've read them and I've see my mistakes. My words and my work are a reflection of ME.

8)

[Skwerl]

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[Newfie]

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol:

[Blinky]

It's not "its," it's "it is," or "it's." It's a contraction.

:|:

That depends. It's "it's" only if it's used as a contraction of "It is". It's "its" if it's a possessive pronoun.

http://www.cgl.uwaterloo.ca/~csk/graphics/its_bob.png

[Blinky]

I try to write like I speak. I think grammar nazism is a refuge for people who can almost write well. Writing is expression and English sucks in that respect... it's a dispassionate language for merchants and politicians.

So, sometimes, bad writing is actually really good writing if it expresses what the person wanted to get across.

As for commas, to me they represent a brief pause in speech, the elipsis represents a fatter pause... a moment for something to sink in. For instance, setting something off with commas like Gary was was talking about... it's a good rule but the purpose is to set off the phrase with brief pauses when speaking aloud.

If you strictly use parts of speech like building blocks you get mechanical prose... you can add flare by using and misusing them to create your written voice. My personal favorite misuse is weird contractions.

And for sure I use the edit function a lot.

[stehansen]

Very interesting guys. Any thread that has Willie actually capitalizing words is incredible.:D

[sotc]

All threads that i post in now;) Well, all threads that remember to capitalize:D {--- Theres a capital d in that smily face by the way;)

[stig]

I try to write like I speak. I think grammar nazism is a refuge for people who can almost write well. Writing is expression and English sucks in that respect... it's a dispassionate language for merchants and politicians.

.

Hey, don't go telling a guy, who has had a 40 year long love affair with English, that his sweetheart is dispassionate and only fit for merchants and politicians!

I do not agree!

[MasterBlaster]

It's "its" if it's a possessive pronoun.


That's the part I don't get.

[Skwerl]

His, hers, its.
'The car was pulling to the right because its tire was almost flat.'

[MasterBlaster]

Yea, I see that and would write it like that, but I don't really understand why I do it.

[Blinky]

Yea, I see that and would write it like that, but I don't really understand why I do it.

Cuz some English snobs made it a rule... I guess.

[MasterBlaster]

But I can live with rules. They're what makes the World go 'round.

[Blinky]

Hey, don't go telling a guy, who has had a 40 year long love affair with English, that his sweetheart is dispassionate and only fit for merchants and politicians!

I do not agree!


I'm telllin' ya! There are so many things you can't express in English without resorting to composite sentences of words and phrases from other languages.

Don't get me wrong, I love English and working it so I can say what I want.

[C. Kirk]

Ok so my senses & spilling needs some work (A hole lot of work). Know I have learning disabilities (Dyslexia I can read and speak fine but to get the word out in written form is hard for me.) This is why i don't post much as it tack me a good couple minutes to get this senses right. And i still use the wrong words (Like meet when it should have been meat).

I hate to look like a fool then I right some for people to read.

So please bear with me.

[woodworkingboy]

C. Kirk, have no hesitation. I'm surrounded by millions of bad to worse English speakers who want to try theirs out on me. I can decipher anything now.

[Skwerl]

I don't mind, but I think Butch might have a seizure. :lol:

[C. Kirk]

I know he call me out on this last night.

[woodworkingboy]

It's probably just a result of his experience as a bartender, try to figure out what inebriated people were trying to say. Could be why he started the Treehouse.

[Blinky]

I don't mind, but I think Butch might have a seizure. :lol:

:lol::lol:

[Mr. Sir]

Well, we can see from your avatar that you're just a little feller, so we'll cut you some slack. :lol:

I'll tell you what, though. I can understand your posts a heck of a lot easier than Kenny's posts. I don't even try to decypher his rambling any more. :?

[C. Kirk]

I'm not so little that i can't clime a tree.

[Paul B]

Grigory was the Russian dude, no?

[MasterBlaster]

Yes!

[Paul B]

I tried searching my hard drive, I had saved that pic of him climbing in tennis shoes or something, from the one night when he had like 3 posts then disappeared. No dice. I think its in the rotator somewhere. Bob Underwor went over there to hang with the Russkies a number of years ago I believe.

[sotc]

His, hers, its.
'The car was pulling to the right because its tire was almost flat.'




Yea, I see that and would write it like that, but I don't really understand why I do it.

Slap me if you want, but not understanding these fancy smancy terms, i get that this (The car was pulling to the right because it is tire was almost flat) wouldnt make sence, so thats why theres no '

[Blinky]

"wouldn't make SENSE".... it's SENSE you bonehead... SENSE! :P

[pantheraba]

"wouldn't make SENSE".... it's SENSE you bonehead... SENSE! :P

hahaha...have some compassion, you literate FREAK!!! :P

[sotc]

Quit slapping me! Once is enough! Ow!

[Burnham]

Oh, quit whinin'...SMACK!

[Dave Shepard]

I bought a newer, better dictionary and a book on how to better assemble a sentence. Also, I bought a thesaurus. Maybe this should be in the OCGD thread.:lol: