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here ya go No_Bivy
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/southflorida/story/947466.html
Thousands of bees driven out of home
A Davie couple plagued by a bee infestation can rest easy again, thanks to Willie the Bee Man and his crew.
Broward homeowners rescued from bee swarm
An elderly Broward couple received pro bono help from a local bee-removal service, which removed tens of thousands of the honey makers from inside a wall of their home.
Miami Herald Staff
gf beranek
03-13-2009, 06:34 PM
Honey bees are good.
Mr. Sir
03-13-2009, 06:42 PM
Yes, but not when they share a house with you!
gf beranek
03-13-2009, 07:05 PM
I recall a honey bee hive co-habitating in the walls and attic of a large three story Victorian mansion on Sonoma Ave, Santa Rosa, Ca. Latter 50's. Honey,,, literally dripped out of the walls and ceiling.
I was a punk kid and went up to the 3rd story attic access, and had to pry it open because it was sealed off by the bees. It didn't take long to realize it was a mistake. Closed it back up and left it at that.
That colony was so huge it had to have more than one queen. Condo bee hive so to speak. Bees swarm out of practically every corner of that house.
The mansion was eventually condemned and wrecked in the latter 60,s. Today there doctors offices occupying the same spot.
And for the time it took to seep through the timbers and come out of the walls that honey tasted as fresh as day one.
Skwerl
03-13-2009, 07:09 PM
Did you guys know that honey is probably the only food on earth that can stay fresh indefinitely? At least that's what I read somewhere years ago.
Bodean
03-13-2009, 07:18 PM
Love it in my tea.
I watched a clip about the Colony collapse,
something like 1/2 the food we eat rely's on bees' pollination.
MasterBlaster
03-13-2009, 07:23 PM
Did you guys know that honey is probably the only food on earth that can stay fresh indefinitely?
That's weird. There might be some Great Secret involved with that. :/:
gf beranek
03-13-2009, 07:27 PM
That's for sure, Brian.
Colony collapse is serious business around the world.
jomoco
03-13-2009, 08:00 PM
That's for sure, Brian.
Colony collapse is serious business around the world.
I think I ticked Ekka off by pointing out to him that immicide systemic injections to control wood boring insects contained the very immidacloprid insecticide that seems the primary suspect in causing colony collapse disorder.
But he came back on his feet swinging for the bees stating that arborists should avoid using immicide 6-8 weeks prior to them flowering.
But to know that degree of detail about each species is something that even a master arborist would be hard pressed to know in different locales and climes.
The internet is the greatest teaching tool ever invented.
jomoco
No_Bivy
03-13-2009, 08:04 PM
Next week Im cutting out a hive....wow! been there three years in a 100 yr old cabin. I'll take pics for sure:D
CurSedVoyce
03-13-2009, 08:06 PM
I love that you have taken to hive salvation John.. Most interesting and nobel.
No_Bivy
03-13-2009, 08:07 PM
my last cut out....no bees:cry:
this next one should bee fun8).......smokers ready
gf beranek
03-13-2009, 08:37 PM
yeah, take pic's!
CurSedVoyce
03-13-2009, 08:40 PM
Absolutely!
No_Bivy
03-13-2009, 08:50 PM
yeah, take pic's!
I shall.....got the gear in a row today....
temps hits 60's by tuesday..the time will bee then8)
Bivy
are you going to salvage that one also - can you add that to the other side of the yard? how is that going work?
Chisel Tooth
03-14-2009, 05:01 AM
Did you guys know that honey is probably the only food on earth that can stay fresh indefinitely? At least that's what I read somewhere years ago.
You are right, honey does not spoil, not to mention that it has many health benefits.According to WHFoods.com the benefits of raw honey also fall into the preventative arena. This substance can be useful for fighting off bacterial, fungal and even viral infections.
No_Bivy
03-14-2009, 06:12 AM
Sheri...We will open the wall and cut the sections of comb out and then rubber band them into frames and place into a hive box. Hopefully we will find the queen and all of the other bees will follow.
heres a pic of a "cut out" a friend of mine did.....it was in an old cabin as well
gf beranek
03-14-2009, 10:05 AM
cool
stehansen
03-14-2009, 10:16 AM
Being in the bee business always kind of appealed to me because you could start with almost nothing. My neighbor raises queen bees, I should go talk to him.
jomoco
03-14-2009, 03:56 PM
In many ways honey bees are our modern "canaries in the colemine" on a global scale.
The fact that colony collapse disorder is very real suggests that we should heed mother nature's bee warning as serious business indeed.
There's alot of funky aspects involved in modern ag practices that need changin.
jomoco
No Bivy, when you get a wild bee family like that, can you treat them with oxalic acid against varroa mites, like you can a caught swarm?
These would only have sealed off eggs and no larvae yet,at this time of the year, or how?
stehansen
03-14-2009, 04:47 PM
There is a theory here that it is low protein on top of all the other stuff like getting treated for the varoa mite, and the treachea mite that causes CCD. Guys who winter their hives in Socal where there is an abundance of wild pollen to be found do a lot better than if they are wintered in northern california where they are fed sugar for the winter. The expert guys think that the protein levels in the bees can be low and you can't really tell until it reaches a critical level and any stress added to that sends the hive over the edge.
No_Bivy
03-14-2009, 04:50 PM
there is a time frame for that treatment.....pre honey flow I think.
heres some pics off the cabin...pretty old. The bees entance is just right of the door. This is an addtion onto the cabin. There is a space that is about 8" thick, 4 to 5 feet long between the log structure. I'm planning on cutting into the sheetrock and then looking for the brood comb. I will get pics when I open up the chaos....
No_Bivy
03-14-2009, 04:51 PM
couple more......
Wagnaw
03-14-2009, 05:00 PM
Time for a little remodeling!!
jomoco
03-14-2009, 05:04 PM
Way cool Bivy!
I've always wanted to learn how to relocate a beehive.
I assume you physically relocate the queen into an appropriately sized bee box, then basically chill out for a few days until the others relocate into the box also?
I look forward to your pictorial essays on bee keeping and relocation.
Thanks for the valuable insights Bivy.
jomoco
No_Bivy
03-14-2009, 05:09 PM
get the queen.....all will follow, hopefully
I'm about to remodel it Andrew:lol:
No_Bivy
03-14-2009, 05:11 PM
my current relocation of a bee log
MasterBlaster
03-14-2009, 07:25 PM
Most excellent, my brother. I wish I could do that to the poor guys when I run across them. :(
No_Bivy
03-15-2009, 06:41 AM
check with your local extension agent. The have a "swarm" list of people willing to come deal with bees....for free
People who do "cut outs" usually charge. You have to get all the comb and honey out or it will rot or attract more bee..
MasterBlaster
03-15-2009, 08:03 AM
Honey will rot???
No_Bivy
03-15-2009, 08:07 AM
yes if they did not get the moisture content down...Bees bring in nectar, then other bees "fan" the honey down to like 15% or so. Then they cap it with wax. The capped honey will keep for ever....other stuff will ferment and the "brood" comb which has the egg/larve will also start to decay....
make sense
Sweet looking cabin, NB. Good luck with the relo.
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