Chainsaw dawgs

[littlenick]

Im a big on making my own things if possible to save a little money. I just built a snow plow for my exmark. I was wondering if any of you on here have made your own dawgs (i think that is what there called). I know i could just go buy some for the 441 but i have the steel and the time.

Thanks, nick

I still have to paint it, its just too cold...

[NeTree]

What would the advantage be? versus say... a proper snowblower?

[littlenick]

What would the advantage be? versus say... a proper snowblower?


The advantage is that i can use the machine all year, other than just using it when the grass is growing. Also where i live i dont get enough snow to justify the cost. This was more ideal than spending $500 or so on a machine i can only use in the winter.

I know that the dawgs for the 441 are not that much. I think there around $30-$40 i dont know exactly but if i have the steel and the time why not save $30 or so dollars...

nick

[Skwerl]

What would the advantage be? versus say... a proper snowblower?

A snowblower won't grab through the thick bark and hold the saw steady in the cut. ;)

[NeTree]

Depends on the size of the snowblower. HAHA!

[MasterBlaster]

Huh? WTH's going on here? :?

[squisher]

LittleNick wants to make some chainsaw dogs himself, and was showing a pic of a metal project he's already done.

Try to keep up boss!:D

[littlenick]

Yea its kinda going off topic..

[squisher]

I've never made no dawgs myself. It seems like it'd be a hassle to make and you'd waste alot of metal cutting them out. I'd buy them and save your metal for another project. But heh if you got nothing but time have a go.

[Newfie]

Yea its kinda going off topic..

That never happens here.

[MasterBlaster]

Try to keep up boss!:D


Fabricating dawgs? That'd be a first! I'd make them freaky looking! :rockon:

[NeTree]

Back on topic...

If you've got the steel, go for it. If nothing else, you'll brush up on some fine metalworking skills.

[Al Smith]

That thing wouldn't push much snow any way but I suppose it beats a snow shovel .----to a point .

[littlenick]

That never happens here.


:lol::lol:

[littlenick]

Back on topic...

If you've got the steel, go for it. If nothing else, you'll brush up on some fine metalworking skills.


I think tomorrow i will give it a try...

If it fails then i'll give in and buy some.

thanks, nick

[Dave Shepard]

Do you have any dogs for it? Just the small one that comes on it? I bought 066 dogs for my 036, one sticks out a little bit farther than the other. I'm with Butch, make them like no other dogs out there. Do you have a plasma cutter? That would make it really easy. I'd make them look like flames.:lol:

[littlenick]

Do you have any dogs for it? Just the small one that comes on it? I bought 066 dogs for my 036, one sticks out a little bit farther than the other. I'm with Butch, make them like no other dogs out there. Do you have a plasma cutter? That would make it really easy. I'd make them look like flames.:lol:


Nope i just have the stock one that came with it...

I dont have a plasma cutter, i am going to use a "saw z'all" or a scroll saw.

[Skwerl]

Dave, sounds like you need to fine tune them on a bench grinder or something. I'm sure you can even them up if you wanted. ;)

[Dave Shepard]

Actually all I've got to do is drill the holes on the outside dog a little bit further ahead. I might also have to grind the back of it so it can slide back on the outside cover. It's never been a problem, and I've been spoiled having real dogs on the 036. I don't care for using saws with only the one low-profile stock dog.

[Jonseredbred]

Weld some big framing nails to them for that "Monster Garage" type felling dawg.

[littlenick]

Weld some big framing nails to them for that "Monster Garage" type felling dawg.


Hahaha, i havn't seen that show in a long time..

[darkstar]

I made my dawgs just for fun posted umm up here .
Wicked looking like a fish hook.
Doubt they worked any better but looked cool.
Its in the old forum under log dawgs.
Have fun.

[sotc]

the dogs are "designed", your probably wasting your time if you dont have a set to trace out. the angles allow you to rotate evenly from the bottom spike to the top with out slipping on the bark. maybe you could trace the stock ones and then enlarge it on your computer. probably work

[squisher]

Whatever you're doing make sure they look snazzy if you're putting them on that spotless new 441.8)

[MasterBlaster]

I made my dawgs... Its in the old forum under log dawgs.


Frig that, repost the pic.

[darkstar]

Long gone with the old hard drive.
I still got them dawgs though, ill dig umm up

[fishhuntcutwood]

I've tried making my own, and unless you just really like metal work, it ain't worth it, and mine looked silly. I can buy a set of aftermarket "West coast" dogs for $25, and then spend that money on gas.

And yeah Dave, I have a set of 660 dogs on my 361....just gotta redrill the holes on the outter dog, and they line up fine.

[littlenick]

Well i spent yesterday afternoon making them. They turned out pretty well... i painted them and they are drying while im at school. I will put up some pictures this afternoon when i put them on the saw. Also this weekend i will get some action pictures cutting through some 32" locus.

Nick

[MasterBlaster]

Cool. I'm curious to see them.

[littlenick]

Cool. I'm curious to see them.


Sorry there not flames butch....

[sotc]

no flames!? haha, cant wait to see em

[MasterBlaster]

Sorry they're not flames butch....


:|:

[littlenick]

Sorry the pictures are a little late it was nice out so i went and split some fire wood. It still needs another coat of paint...

dont make fun of me too bad :lol::lol:

[littlenick]

Do ya'lls 200t leak this bad??

[littlenick]

one more:

[inztrees]

those are nasty and no my 200 does not leak looks bad

[littlenick]

those are nasty and no my 200 does not leak looks bad

somethings wrong with it, it is also on the rich side... it pores two cycle oil out of the muffler...

[OTGBOSTON]

no they don't.

Cool lookin dawgs but.........they look like they will limit your cut length.

[Skwerl]

On the 200T I'd check the line from the tank to the oiler pump. The only reason one of mine would leak like that is if I ran it a long time on the bench without actually cutting anything with it. Then the excess oil would drip out after I shut it down.

[littlenick]

no they don't.

Cool lookin dawgs but.........they look like they will limit your cut length.


Thanks...ill probably end up buying the 660 dawgs and puting them on it...

[littlenick]

On the 200T I'd check the line from the tank to the oiler pump. The only reason one of mine would leak like that is if I ran it a long time on the bench without actually cutting anything with it. Then the excess oil would drip out after I shut it down.


I will check that thanks... i dont understand it is just about brand new only about 2 hours on her..

[Skwerl]

somethings wrong with it, it is also on the rich side... it pores two cycle oil out of the muffler...

Just how long have you run this saw? I'd expect some excess assembly oil to come out the exhaust in the first 5-10 minutes running time. And maybe the dealer has it set a little rich so you don't burn it up in the first week. Put it to work and run 4-5 tanks through it (actual cutting, not bench time) and then recheck the carb settings.

Oil out the bottom may be from running it on the bench with the oiler turned all the way up.

edit: Two hourson the saw and you haven't cut anything with it? That explains both your concerns. Put it in some wood so the rings can seat, bench time won't help.

[littlenick]

Just how long have you run this saw? I'd expect some excess assembly oil to come out the exhaust in the first 5-10 minutes running time. And maybe the dealer has it set a little rich so you don't burn it up in the first week. Put it to work and run 4-5 tanks through it (actual cutting, not bench time) and then recheck the carb settings.

Oil out the bottom may be from running it on the bench with the oiler turned all the way up.

edit: Two hourson the saw and you haven't cut anything with it? That explains both your concerns. Put it in some wood so the rings can seat, bench time won't help.


Before i put it away for winter i drained the Gas and about 90% of the bar & chainoil... Does the line for the oil pump come in towards the top of the oil tank then go down to the bottom of the tank? like a straw?

[littlenick]

Just how long have you run this saw? I'd expect some excess assembly oil to come out the exhaust in the first 5-10 minutes running time. And maybe the dealer has it set a little rich so you don't burn it up in the first week. Put it to work and run 4-5 tanks through it (actual cutting, not bench time) and then recheck the carb settings.

Oil out the bottom may be from running it on the bench with the oiler turned all the way up.

edit: Two hourson the saw and you haven't cut anything with it? That explains both your concerns. Put it in some wood so the rings can seat, bench time won't help.


Those two hours were cutting, before i set the saw there the bottom of the saw was clean... the next day there was a oil puddle under it...

[Skwerl]

Here's a picture I had of an old parts saw (tank is missing). This will give you an idea what yours looks like under the plastic covers. ;)

Your saw was so clean it didn't look like you'd used it yet. 8)

[littlenick]

Here's a picture I had of an old parts saw (tank is missing). This will give you an idea what yours looks like under the plastic covers. ;)

Your saw was so clean it didn't look like you'd used it yet. 8)


Ahhh... thanks for the picture.. i will rip it down tomorrow...

well I dont really like to use it on the ground if i dont have to because it was an arm and a leg....it belongs up in the tree

[MasterBlaster]

Where are the pics of your dawgs?

[littlenick]

Where are the pics of your dawgs?

:?

:lol:

[MasterBlaster]

Weren't you gonna fabricate some dawgs?

[littlenick]

Weren't you gonna fabricate some dawgs?


I did...

[Altissimus]

Those Dawgs come out nice .... the Game Of Logging instructor claims they are unneccesary ....I disagree!

[littlenick]

Those Dawgs come out nice .... the Game Of Logging instructor claims they are unneccesary ....I disagree!

Thank you!

One of the the guys i used to work for he was an older guy and i looked at his saws one day and they didnt have any dawgs on them. I asked him why and he said they wear out your saw and the saw should do the work cutting. But i think in some situations you need them...

[BlackSmith]

Made dogs for the 090. Had a guy trace, scan and email me a actual size dog from his saw that has some damn agressive teeth on his. 4" grinder, cutoff wheel and some 1/8" stainless. Just sat at the bench and carved'em out, even got paid to do it... heh

[Altissimus]

Stainless would make a sweet dawg ...

[NeTree]

Bitch to work with, though.

[BlackSmith]

I used a cut off wheel called a razor blade. .045" cuts it like butter. Used some TapMagic® cutting oil on the holes.

[sotc]

dogs look nice, now you need to try em out to see if they work8) my 200s leak like that

[Dave Shepard]

Those Dawgs come out nice .... the Game Of Logging instructor claims they are unneccesary ....I disagree!

I agree with your disagreement.:) I'm not worried about loosing an inch or so of bar length. I want the saw to dig in and not slide around on the front of the case. You may not need dogs on a 16" bar, but it takes a lot of leverage to swing a long bar through the wood, as most of us know.

[fishhuntcutwood]

But i think in some situations you need them...

In timber, you always need them. That's what they're for. It's like a car with no seats. Yeah, it'll run and get you there, but seats are an important part of the equation.

[MasterBlaster]

Thank you!

One of the the guys i used to work for he was an older guy and i looked at his saws one day and they didnt have any dawgs on them. I asked him why and he said they wear out your saw and the saw should do the work cutting. But i think in some situations you need them...

In ALL situations you need them. That guy you used to work for has an insane membrane.

[Burnham]

All large dog sets limit the cut length...yours no worse than any other.

The small teeth between the large teeth are just for looks...they'll never engage, I don't believe :).

Unless the stock is quite heavy, the thinness of the upper tooth and the depth of the gullet at the lowest tooth are going to make those two particularly susceptible to bending.

But props to you for giving it a go, and heck...try 'em out for a while, they may do just fine for your needs!

[littlenick]

All large dog sets limit the cut length...yours no worse than any other.

The small teeth between the large teeth are just for looks...they'll never engage, I don't believe :).

Unless the stock is quite heavy, the thinness of the upper tooth and the depth of the gullet at the lowest tooth are going to make those two particularly susceptible to bending.

But props to you for giving it a go, and heck...try 'em out for a while, they may do just fine for your needs!


Yea i put the tooth in the middle just for looks... The top and bottom will bend over time, i will just have to be gentle with it.

Thanks! nick

[Cut4fun]

Thanks...ill probably end up buying the 660 dawgs and puting them on it...

If it is west coast style dawgs you are after. Check out the ones at Madsen's and Bailey's. $24 a set.

[Swe#kipp]

On big saws/wood it's nice to have the dawgs i think, but on small saws like a Hva 346xp or it's equals (non) it's just in the way i think !

[fishhuntcutwood]

Yea i put the tooth in the middle just for looks... The top and bottom will bend over time, i will just have to be gentle with it.

Thanks! nick

You could install a Stihl chain catcher in the lower teeth and that'd reinforce them. Bendig dogs ain't all bad. If your dogs are too strong, the weak link becomes the saw, either the case on the inner set, or the cover on the outter. You see alot of 44/46/66's with the inner, top bolt hole broken. That's from letting the chain catch in the cut, and pull the saw into the tree, hitting the lower edge of the dogs, and the saw "giving" before the dogs do. The factory Stihl dogs will bend before the saw breaks...at least they're supposed to.

That said, I use the big aftermarket West Coast dogs on all my saws...even my 361.

[sotc]

i use the dogs on my 200t in the tree often, size dont matter!

[CurSedVoyce]

size dont matter!

Katy says .... "sometimes" LMAO:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[littlenick]

I just got in cutting fire wood... the dogs didnt last long... they ended up bending pretty bad.

Looks like I'll be getting the west coast dogs...i like the price of those too!!


Edit: is this what ya'll get?

http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=17165&catID=257

[CurSedVoyce]

I need a set of those for my 066 also ... so I am thinkin..
I really liked your dogs Nick... I just wished they had worked for you ... maybe some heavier stock ? But I pretty much just buy the stuff not fab it ;)

[littlenick]

I need a set of those for my 066 also ... so I am thinkin..
I really liked your dogs Nick... I just wished they had worked for you ... maybe some heavier stock ? But I pretty much just buy the stuff not fab it ;)


If it was thicker they would work great!

It would be nice if i could find some 1/8" stainless... I'll see if lowes or home depot has some..

The dogs i made now i cut out with a dremle, so if you have a dremle you could make them..

Thanks nick

[MasterBlaster]

Did you ever post pics? Did I miss something?

[Skwerl]

Yes he did, Butch. Posts 33 and 35 in this thread. ;)

[littlenick]

Did you ever post pics? Did I miss something?


No i didnt post any from today.. i forgot the camera:X

[MasterBlaster]

Wow, those are pretty wack, yo. I'd order the real deal.

[sotc]

yes nick, those are the right dogs for the 46 and 66 at least

[littlenick]

yes nick, those are the right dogs for the 46 and 66 at least


Thank you! just making sure..:D

[sotc]

your saw may not sit on the shelf as well with them but it will do everything else better:)

[JonnyHart]

Made dogs for the 090. Had a guy trace, scan and email me a actual size dog from his saw that has some damn agressive teeth on his. 4" grinder, cutoff wheel and some 1/8" stainless. Just sat at the bench and carved'em out, even got paid to do it... heh

I was wondering if anybody was gonna suggest this. Take the dogs off your saw, trace them, and if you want to, add a little more length to each spike. Then just cut em out.

[BlackSmith]

Jonny,
He called these west coast dawgs if l remember right. Big ol teeth compaired to what came on it.

[Cut4fun]

Time is money, to easy to just click the order button for $26.

I cut down a 22" bar to a 20" and had a couple of hours in hand filing the bar slot out to get the adjustment needed.
Later on I just ordered a 20" bar from Baileys for $30. My time was worth more then that. Lesson learned.

[BlackSmith]

Time is money, to easy to just click the order button for $26.

It's not about time or money to me. I enjoy working. I find it satisfying to know I can get along without relying on other sources for my needs.

[Altissimus]

I'll DRINK ONE to that !!!

[Jamin Mayer]

I liked the look of the dawgs. BTW. You're not gonna cut anything without the chain.... LOL;)

Sorry. Lil'Nick. I had to...

[Al Smith]

I'll DRINK ONE to that !!! Now that you mentioned that I've toasted everybodies health this evening myself .:D Oh I do hope everybody is feeling chipper .I am .:|:

[littlenick]

I liked the look of the dawgs. BTW. You're not gonna cut anything without the chain.... LOL;)

Sorry. Lil'Nick. I had to...


Haha i knew someone was going to say something...

[stehansen]

Hardly any homemade project like this is totally satisfactory the first time. Don't be afraid to tweak 'em or even re-engineer them. My Dad made all sorts of stuff and his junk pile of scrapped or redone projects was pretty big. I think the dogs you made are pretty cool, but I stay away from making anything from thin metal because I'm not fixed up for it. Keep it up.

[woodworkingboy]

A metal cutting bandsaw would make quick work out of those, in stainless too.

[Dave Shepard]

One of my blacksmith buddies made a jig that holds a 4" angle grinder on it's side, and has a small table, maybe 4" square. He makes maple leaf blanks on it, and you just slide the blank into the blade and grind out the profile. Would be really handy if you were making a lot of that kind of stuff.

[woodworkingboy]

Lots of cutting away for a baby grinder, not that it wouldn't work. Much better to use a saw or a torch to cut away the bulk of it, then use the grinder to clean up. if you have the luxury of those tools available, that is.

[Dave Shepard]

Yeah, it was for the finish detail, I kinda forgot to mention that.:roll: Plasma is sweet for this kind of work. If you had a pattern, you wouldn't even need to grind them. Even if it's cheaper to buy something like chainsaw dawgs, it's a fun learning experience to make your own.:)

[littlenick]

I wish i had a band saw, it would make quick work of cutting metal....

[woodworkingboy]

Both wood and metal cutting bandsaws are really handy. I have the wood one covered, and lucky to have a metal fabrication place close by that lets me use their metal cutting one. You could switch blades and do both with the same saw, though a metal one usually runs slower.

[blewgrass]

just made some outta stainless. how the hell do you get pics up in the message?!

[Dave Shepard]

Under the post window is "Manage Attachments". You can upload a photo there, and it will automatically be in the bottom of your post.

[sotc]

click the "go advanced button"
ive got the metal bandsaw coverd:)

[blewgrass]

see if these work.

nope. i try to upload the photos and then a new window opens that is just blank. this new computer sucks.

[sotc]

actually that happened to me the other day to!

[MasterBlaster]

It's working fine on my end. Anyone else?

[sotc]

anyone else getting a malware warning on google images? i clicked on half a dozen pics and got the same warning from google

[MasterBlaster]

Nyet.

[sotc]

now i dont, weird

[Skwerl]

anyone else getting a malware warning on google images? i clicked on half a dozen pics and got the same warning from google

It was a programming screwup at Google. I just found a thread discussing it on FARK. Seems to be fixed now.
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=4180730

http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo118/flickrdoodle/googleharm.jpg

[sotc]

sho nuff works again

[Skwerl]

I found the official Google explanation here:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/this-site-may-harm-your-computer-on.html

[blewgrass]

It's working fine on my end. Anyone else?

if i keep saying that i can't post pics will you keep putting pics of her up?

[MasterBlaster]

Maybe, if you'll use caps when proper. ;)

[blewgrass]

think i'm getting warmer on the pics. edit: BINGO! on the left is the original, right is the metal i found to work with, it's like 1/8" stainless. the hole was already there.

[blewgrass]

Maybe, if you'll use caps when proper

Caps take too long, but I am also a stickler for proper grammar, spelling and punctuation.:D

This is the finished product. just saws, files and grinders to make it. Then a drill press for the holes.

I'll try to get some pics on the saw, but these two almost killed me trying to get them on the computer.

[Skwerl]

That dog on the left is designed specifically for milling. I have one that came with my 395xp.

[Al Smith]

You could just cut the thing with a bandsaw if it were say 10 gauge steel ,no problem . Stainless might be a tad hard on the blade though .

I really have no idea why you would want stainless anyway .It isn't any harder that regular steel . It acts like it though if you try to cut it but it isn't .

[Burnham]

For bling, Al...what else?
:D

[woodworkingboy]

Curious about your statement, Al. Stainless is harder for me to turn on the lathe, requires a sharp bite, and I get more resistance compared to a mild steel. Isn't that indicative of a harder material?

[blewgrass]

depends on which alloy of each you're comparing. typically stainless is harder.

[littlenick]

Caps take too long, but I am also a stickler for proper grammar, spelling and punctuation.:D

This is the finished product. just saws, files and grinders to make it. Then a drill press for the holes.

I'll try to get some pics on the saw, but these two almost killed me trying to get them on the computer.



Blewgrass, those dogs look sweet....Nice Job!!!

Im kinda new to adding pictures too...


Nick

[MasterBlaster]

Caps take too long, but I am also a stickler for proper grammar, spelling and punctuation.:D

I can live with that. Here you go...

[CurSedVoyce]

WOOOOOOF!