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[MasterBlaster]

Thanks Buddy, me too. I think that pics skeered most other TreeHousers off! :lol:

[fishhuntcutwood]

Body building/physique stuff ain't for everbody. I take pics of myself, critique my "outter sweeps" ask my girlfriend if my V taper is good enough. Stuff like that... But she's into the gym thing too, so she askes me the same questions.

[MasterBlaster]

Word. Most people are content with being normal.

Not for moi! :rockon:

I wanna stand out from the masses.

[fishhuntcutwood]

I just wanna be the biggest SOB in the room. I ain't into being ripped, cause I prolly never will be. I want to be the guy that people say, "wow, that guy's an animal. He's friggin huge." And I wanna be the good huge, not just dumb fat bulk huge.

[MasterBlaster]

And because of my job description, lean and strong is what I need.

But I hear ya on the mass! :rockon:

[Bodean]

Bad ass monkey!

Good work, Butch.
Outstanding.

[MasterBlaster]

You remember how fat I was!

[Bodean]

You look like you gotta small head now.

I can see it in the neck and face most.

Dude.

You turned the corner and hauled ass.

I know you were talking about it lots.
You put your money where your mouth was.

filthy.

[MasterBlaster]

I always do, nergo! ;)

[MasterBlaster]

This guy is awesome, but he laid a lotta that mass down when he was on the needle, back in the eighties.

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[Strikermike]

Looking good Blaster. I think your back looks fine. At our somewhat advanced years. The skin loses its elasticity. I think this is what you are seeing. Plus it is hard to build mass at our age.

[vharrison]

Dude.

You turned the corner and hauled ass.

I know you were talking about it lots.
You put your money where your mouth was.



Heck yeah, you are doing a great job! I know it is not easy! Keep it up. I have been out of tthe gym 4 days, Friday my back hurt and well, today is a holiday! :D Besides, I am gangsta.

[MasterBlaster]

Besides, I am gangsta.


:lol:

We've known that all along, dawg!

[Paul B]

just googled this guy for the first time, 70 boats, 70 people, 1.5 miles, shackled and handcuffed he did swim! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_LaLanne yoicks.

MB, kudos to your physique, to be honest my dad has 10 years on you and he looks it, your build looks like a fit 35 year old or better, your discipline is tight.

[MasterBlaster]

I used to play along with my Mother while she exercised to him, 50 years ago.

[Che]

Check him out JACK LALANNE (http://www.jacklalanne.com/)

I remember him on tv (http://www.jacklalanne.com/tv.html). His full episodes are here. Cool chair in the first one.

[OTGBOSTON]

lookin' good MB.

[Paul B]

wicked link Che, I sent that to my buddy that we were just holidaying with, we had a debate on saturday night about who is the real 'juiceman', then we werent sure if they were both still alive, my buddies wife remarked ' how the F do you guys even know their names, I have never heard of them?", it was bed time shortly thereafter. :D

[MasterBlaster]

Lordy, I've finally broke 180. At 176, that puts my BMI at 22.6, which is the medium range for normal weight.

There just might be something to the hardcore aspect of the BMI charts. The weird thing is I still have a roll of fat in my gut, I bet at least five pounds.

[Paul B]

wow, thats a helluva achievement MB, over 2 years? or has it been more than that?

[MasterBlaster]

No, it's under a year... I think.

[chucky]

Lordy, I've finally broke 180. At 176, that puts my BMI at 22.6, which is the medium range for normal weight.

There just might be something to the hardcore aspect of the BMI charts. The weird thing is I still have a roll of fat in my gut, I bet at least five pounds.

Don't see much of a roll in those pics, you're looking great! But ...

http://www.amazon.com/6-Week-Cure-Middle-Aged-Middle-Flatten/dp/0307450716/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252546551&sr=8-1

[MasterBlaster]

No, it's there alright.

It'll be gone, eventually! :)

[cory]

How low are you looking to go?

[MasterBlaster]

Breaking 180 was my goal. Now, I want to slowly put the weight back on, but this time it will be muscle.

The more muscle I have, the more I can EAT. http://boards.cannabis.com/images/smilies/custom/eat.gif

That's the beauty of it. I luvs me some eating!

[Paul B]

under a year, my bad, I thought it had been a longer workout. kudos.

[treetx]

This guy is awesome, but he laid a lotta that mass down when he was on the needle, back in the eighties.

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Fuck that bro. Dave ain't on the needle. Maybe back in the 80s (like you said). But he works out hard. I have worked out on the bench next to him many a day in the years I worked out at HPG (Hyde Park Gym).

Even if it was the needle..... Gotta give it to him for hanging on to it sans needle for 20+ years

It is easy, just takes discipline. :lol:

[vharrison]

No, it's under a year... I think.

I started in Sept of last year, I think you were already working out.

[Skwerl]

The first post of this thread answers the question. ;)

[MasterBlaster]

Dave ain't on the needle. Maybe back in the 80s (like you said).

And isn't that what I said?

No "maybes" to it. My beef is how he call himself "natural." Once you've geared up, you're NEVER natural, no matter how long you stay clean. And FTR, I have no problem with people using steroids.


The first post of this thread answers the question. ;)

Dang! It's been longer than I thought! :\:

[Che]

Dang! It's been longer than I thought! :\:

That's good, though, Butch. You stand a better chance at keeping it off and maintaining that way. Good for you!

[MasterBlaster]

It's not me, it's my treadmill! :)

[OTGBOSTON]

The weird thing is I still have a roll of fat in my gut, I bet at least five pounds.


According to my weightlifter buddy... running may be counterproductive to weightloss. He claims walking at 3.6-3.8 clip on a treadmill will do it. Running taps into your muscles for energy, while walking burns just the fat. He reccomends weight training without rest in between sets/excercises. This will supposedly give you a good enough cardio workout without burning muscle. He also reccomends a protein shake immediately after working out...

I would imagine the little big of gut you have remaining is your body's (fat) reserve for your runs.

FWIW looking good!

[Dave Shepard]

And no carbs before the workout, they block growth hormone.;)

[MasterBlaster]

THe first mile is walking at 2.5 while doing 8 sets of dumbell movements. Miles 2 to 4 are spent running, and the last mile is walking at 3.6 with a 10 incline setting.

I'm sorta doing all those thing your buddy suggest... I think.

Cool.

[cory]

THe first mile is walking at 2.5 while doing 8 sets of dumbell movements. Miles 2 to 4 are spent running, and the last mile is walking at 3.6 with a 10 incline setting.


That is an excellent workout IMO. I do almost the same thing but in woods instead of tread mill. But, even though I've tried to build slowly, my achilles has recently gone nuts on me, so gotta ramp it back down. PITA.

You ever do too much too soon re excercise, MB?

[MasterBlaster]

I'm not following that.

[cory]

I meant I've been walking ,then turned it into running and walking, and it was all good for awhile, but now my achilles is painful I assume from too much speed and or mileage increases, and I was just wondering if, on your road to fitness, you ever had any what could be called overtraining injuries?

[MasterBlaster]

No, so far my only injury was when I pulled a groin muscle using an ab wheel - knock on wood.

[cory]

Did you increase speed/mileage just as you felt it appropriate or did you follow some guidelines or established workout?

Just curious. I have been injured running so many different times, it's ridiculous.

[MasterBlaster]

I started real slow and gradually increased everything at my leisure. Like leg lifts - I started at 20 and routinely added 5 reps and now I'm up to 100.

Experiment, and figure out what's best for YOU. The secret to all of it is perseverance, not so much what you do. You just gotta do it.

[cory]

Well said and well done.

[MasterBlaster]

Thank you!

[OTGBOSTON]

Cory before you run or work out at all you've gotta s-t-r-e-t-c-h.

You want to really find out how in or out of shape you are? Go to a regulation track and try to run 100 yards at a full sprint. I'm getting back to where I once was, but at first I swear to god it was almost like learning to run again.

[MasterBlaster]

I really would like a Treadclimber, but the entry level model is over 1500 bucks. 800 for my treadmill was enough for me.

[cory]

Cory before you run or work out at all you've gotta s-t-r-e-t-c-h.

You want to really find out how in or out of shape you are? Go to a regulation track and try to run 100 yards at a full sprint. I'm getting back to where I once was, but at first I swear to god it was almost like learning to run again.

Yeah, sprinting is awesome. I try to mix up the workouts. Some people say sprinting is easier on the bod than lots of jogging cuz theres less steady pounding.

[MasterBlaster]

I wouldn't say that.

[Highclimber]

I always thought that if you want to lose weight you had to stay withing your target heart rate for a duration without going over and tapping into your muscle for energy. it doesnt matter if you run walk or jog as long as you keep your heart rate at it's prime efficency for the right amount of time.:?

[MasterBlaster]

It's for damned sure more complicated than most people think.

[SteveBullman]

my sports therapist told me you have to run for 20 minutes before you even start to lose weight

[MasterBlaster]

Exactly, lest it stays an anaerobic workout.

[woodworkingboy]

Cyclist training is big on heart rate monitoring. A book I have by one of the premier trainers, goes into the use of the monitor rather extensively. He sees it as the most direct connection to stamina, is what I gather. Some pretty evolved gizmos on the market now.

[Highclimber]

your right cycling is great for cardio and some strength traning as well depending on the terrain you ride I am an avid moutnain biker but I like riding the road as well for those long winded rides:big-jump:

[treetx]

And isn't that what I said?

No "maybes" to it. My beef is how he call himself "natural." Once you've geared up, you're NEVER natural, no matter how long you stay clean. And FTR, I have no problem with people using steroids.



Dang! It's been longer than I thought! :\:

Yes, and isn't that what I said you said? :D

No, no maybes about it but I guess my poorly made point was maybe he used roids in the 80s but he is twice the size now that he was in the 80s. The majority of his bulk was put on after any tom foolery with a needle.

I miss working out at Hyde Park Gym with folks like Dave but now it is mostly man hating dykes, fags, and wanna be power lifters - no thanks. I miss the daze of working out in a good 'ol spit and fart muscle building gym. Heck, I miss working out..... I have lost almost 30lbs (of muscle) in the last 3 yrs. :cry:

[MasterBlaster]

And you'll continue to lose 6lbs of muscle every decade, unless you do something about it.

[treetx]

Yup, just got back from 24hr Fitness.

I hate the big box gym but my local gym ain't what it used to be.... plus the membership was cheap.

Yeah, I am gonna get back to banging the weights. Losing muscle was fun at first - my run time improved in a crazy way.

I need the weights for my appetite. No lifting, no hunger. I also lost so much weight because I got to feeling sorry for myself after losing my mom.

THC makes a lot of folks hungry... pfft. Just make me forget to eat even more ;)

[MasterBlaster]

It used to make me hungry, 10 or 20 years ago - not so much, nowadays.

[Jonseredbred]

Whew, just finished off a big bowl of chocolate pudding.

[MasterBlaster]

And I had two ice cold oranges, a banana, and an apple.

[treetx]

mmm..... burger!

[MasterBlaster]

Oh, I'll have a sirloin tonight!!!

[OTGBOSTON]

I'm sure you've mentioned it before boss, but metamucil is key. Most people don't get enough fiber as it is. Sugar free metamucil is da shitz;)

[Tree Reb]

Yep, I've been taking psyllium husk for over 20 years. Metamucil is a bit overpriced for me, but you're right.8)

http://www.getprice.com.au/Select-Naturals-Psyllium-Husk-1kg-Gpnc_614--38803471.htm

[MasterBlaster]

For some reason, Metamucil scares most people, never understood why - it's great stuff.

[OTGBOSTON]

Yup reb, I ment 'metamucil' as a generic term;)...I use the walgreens brand

[Mr. Sir]

I started the 12 week Body For Life (http://bodyforlife.com/) program today. In 3 short months, I'll be a lean mean machine. 8)

[MasterBlaster]

Take a before pic. I didn't, wished I woulda - and good luck!

[Mr. Sir]

:thumbup: Pics and measurements later today.

[lumberjack]

I'm cutting out milk and carbonated drinks for 4 weeks and seeing what happens.

I normally drink 3 gallons+ a week of milk. Normally I drink coke with my Sonic/Wendy's/Taco Bell. At sit down resturants, which is my usual eatery, I order water and keep the server busy. I also drink a couple cans when I have cheese and crackers.

[treetx]

I wish I would have taken a pick too... but I have several of me and the kid, etc. It was actually looking at myself in a pic that made me think WTF!!! Gain!! I never though I would be here. In my mid 30s I expected to be fighting off a gut... not trying to gain. But, I guess like most folks who climb trees, we are all here because we're not all there.

4 weeks ago I was 145... up to 150 and started hitting the weights..... hoping to hit 165-170 again but not too soon. ;)

[treetx]

Carl... I wish you luck with the milk thing. A buddy of mine cut out dairy as he is a milkaholic and it really helped him lean out.

Me, I could even give up meat (gasp) but no way I could give up milk and cheese.

[lumberjack]

Thanks, Nate. :)

3 gallons a week is 324k calories a year. 324k calories can make 92.5lbs of fat if you don't burn it off. Add Hershey's/cereal/chocolate/breakfast and it goes way up.

I don't plan to cut milk forever, just seeing what 4 weeks will do, hopefully gain some perspective.

[OTGBOSTON]

Damn Nate, how tall are you?

[MasterBlaster]

Milk is for babies, seriously. It's only purpose is to put on weight. Skim's alright, but I gave that up for 2% cheese.

[treetx]

5'10" .......

Butch.... I hear an Austrian accent??

[Mr. Sir]

Here (http://www.notmilk.com/kradjian.html) is a good article about the non-benefits of milk. Makes sense, but we've been brain-washed that milk "does a body good." :roll:

[treetx]

Yeah, protein is overrated..

Sorry for not clicking, but one can guess that notmilk.com is not going to have a very open minded view.

I prefer to use the Dutch as an example - they have a high dairy consumption. I mean cheese too..... real cheese... not the stuff Americans call cheese. And they are the tallest nation on the planet.

Most good old world cheese has more protein than meat. ;) Most American cheese is actually just the by product of the proetin reclamation process (trust me, I work in this industry)

[Mr. Sir]

I prefer to use nature as an example - BABIES drink milk. Period. And most times within their own species.

[treetx]

Nice logic but don't confuse the stuff we drink with the stuff babies of any species drinks.

Oh, and cheese? You try to stay away from that too? Ice cream? Meh - nature ain't that good of an example. ;)

[Mr. Sir]

I'm not confused, cow's milk is for baby cows. I like cheese, but I know it's not healthy; and I don't eat ice cream.

[treetx]

I'm not confused, cow's milk is for baby cows. I like cheese, but I know it's not healthy; and I don't eat ice cream.

you do sound confused....

Ok, but do you think the stuff you buy at the store is the same thing that calves drink :what:

since when is cheese unhealthy? The good: This food is a good source of Protein, Calcium and Phosphorus. 8)

[squisher]

I'm missing the point you're getting at Nate. I worked a dairy farm for three years during highschool. The herd was Holsteins with one Jersey to bump the fat a little and what I drank straight out of the holding tank tasted just like what you buy at the store?

[MasterBlaster]

All dairy products are loaded with fat.

Gimme veggies anyday!

[woodworkingboy]

Change of subject, but I like drinking soy milk, bought a machine that automatically grinds up the beans and puts them into a hot water solution for consumption. You have to pre-soak the beans. With good soybeans and a touch of honey it's not a bad tasting drink, and apparently very good for you.

I hate protein powder mixed with water, so soy milk is good for that too.

[Che]

I can't imagine not eating cheese, ice cream, and milk. It may kill me, but I'll go with a milk mustache above my satisfied grin!!


Moderation is the key...that's all.




(ok, so it's 2% milk cheese, ice milk, and 1% milk....but to me it still tastes wonderful)

[treetx]

Fat in food rawks!!!!!! It makes you feel full and keeps you from eating so much. It is all this fat free/sugar free shite that keeps Americans so fat... (ok, a big part..there is that activity thing too)

[Che]

Fat in food rawks!!!!!! It makes you feel full and keeps you from eating so much. It is all this fat free/sugar free shite that keeps Americans so fat... (ok, a big part..there is that activity thing too)

Actually, there's alot of truth to that. They take the fat out, which carries the flavor...so they have to add back alot of salt and sugar to give it SOME flavor. You never feel full, so you can eat less fat, but lots more calories.

I actually prefer the lower fat milk products though....'lower fat' is still PLENTY!!

[MasterBlaster]

Most people don't want to admit it, but if it it tastes GOOD and you can swallow it FAST...

It's no good for you.

[treetx]

Fat is good for you!! Lots of energy....

I hate that it is hard to find yogurt that isn't fat free...... The good thing about cutting all that fat free crap out of your life is that then you are satisfied with much smaller portions.

[Paul B]

...I prefer to use the Dutch as an example - they have a high dairy consumption. I mean cheese too..... real cheese... not the stuff Americans call cheese. And they are the tallest nation on the planet.


hmmm, wonder why there arent more Vanderbasketball players in the NBA? :) I am a proud dutchman, most of my relatives are average to slightly taller in height, near the 6 foot mark average would be my guess, I dont do as much cheese as I did when I was a kid but back then we got lots of gouda and edam, yummy! :D

to back up Nate's comment: link (http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=60879)

[treetx]

They are the tallest nation. I think the Maasai would be the tallest people.

[OTGBOSTON]

5'10" .......


5'10" 145....:O

;):P

I used to be about the same, when I got married 8 years ago...balooned to 215, now back at 180. I'm 6'.

[treesmith]

Bodyweight is just like a bank account...put more in than you take out...you gain. Spend more than you take in...you lose. Tweny years ago, I would go into McDonald's and order two Big Macs, one Filet-O-Fish, large fries and a large Dr. Pepper. Then I'd finish off with one of those little apple pies. Never got over 140 in those days. Then I got married, got promoted to foreman, and started putting on weight. Oh to have the metabolism of those early twenties...

[MasterBlaster]

I was a manager for five years at Micky Dees, and I never saw anyone eat that much, including me.

Good to hear you didn't become morbidly obese.

[woodworkingboy]

Two Bg Macs with fries was always my limit, even in my prime. I did try for three once, but only made it through half of the last one. Must have wimped out. :roll:

[chucky]

I can't imagine not eating cheese, ice cream, and milk. It may kill me, but I'll go with a milk mustache above my satisfied grin!!


Moderation is the key...that's all.




(ok, so it's 2% milk cheese, ice milk, and 1% milk....but to me it still tastes wonderful)

Maybe for most, but I THRIVE on whole milk and all kinds of cheese. I drink more milk than Lumberjack and I prefer Jersey cow milk and yogurt for the high cream content, preferably right from the farm (via the farmer's market). All this lowfat milk is total BS, the only way to drink milk is whole, and I guarantee you'll be healthier for it. Sorry, but the milk naysayers are ill-informed and have been fooled for decades into thinking a high (good) fat diet is unhealthful. Research had demonstrated over the past few years the lipid hypothesis is dead and it's excessive carbohydrates, not healthful fats, that contribute to obesity and heart disease. My triglicerides have never been lower, and my HDL never higher. There are essential amino acids (protein) and essential fatty acids (fat), but no such thing a essential carbohydrates! It's all about tempering that magic and ancient molecule, insulin.

http://www.lowcarb.ca/articles/article149.html

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html

[chucky]

Try THIS, treetx :)

http://stronglifts.com/gomad-milk-squats-gallon-gain-weight/

[Che]

Have you ever had high cholesterol, Chucky....or does it run in the family?

[chucky]

Those watching their wastelines, try THIS. Worked for a whole tribe of Indians. :-O

http://www.cbc.ca/thelens/bigfatdiet/

[chucky]

Yeah Che, since I was in my teens. Runs in the family, and being Irish doesn't help with all the potatoes my poor ancestors ate over the generations. Potatoes are actually a new world crop from the Americas and never grew in Ireland before the 1600s. They're really just "lumps of sugar" to the insulin secreted by your pancreas. Only thing that saved the Irish in those years was all the milk they drank for the fat and protein. Beer certainly help much, either!

[MasterBlaster]

I don't eat 'taters.

[treetx]

Chucky -

That rawks!! I owe you a beer.

Keeping up with hittin the gym and eating... not GOMAD but we'll see......

I am suprised how fast a workout kills me in the gym. did shoulders today and back. I wore out fast!

I like taters :)

[MasterBlaster]

Me too!!!

[treetx]

Glad I am hitting the gym and wow my hunger is way up...

but no freaking way I could work out and climb all day 4-5 days a week like I used to. Not for a while anyway.

Ouch

[MasterBlaster]

___ (http://wimp.com/exercisedays/)

[Tree Reb]

I've seen that and was going to post it but I just keep watching that guys legs. :O
[No Quoting, please.]

[Mr. Sir]

I've seen that and was going to post it but I just keep watching that guys legs. :O
[No Quoting, please.]

Are you kidding? You post THAT and then expect us not to quote it? :lol:

[Tree Reb]

I sort of like the "new" you sence of humor.:D

[Mr. Sir]

Just don't be checkin' out my legs, K? :D

[lumberjack]

I thought today made a week sans milk/coke, but it looks like 6 days instead.

Right now I'm 7lbs lighter. I did forget one day at school and got a large coke to go with my pizza.

[MasterBlaster]

No soda pop, ever.

Well, maybe a couple a year.

[OTGBOSTON]

I had a cherry coke on sunday. Cure for the massive hangover I had....:cry:

[Che]

I still drink diet colas, but I've been eating a Tums first. :D

Cool video of the 365 days of exercise....

Here's the before and after. Wow.

eouwwwwwww....I just noticed that he shaved his chest.

[Skwerl]

Looks like he shaved his legs too. Yuck.

[MasterBlaster]

Yea, it's the end of the world as we know it.

[Ryan]

How come he didn't have his arms pushed out in the before pic? I don't see any dominating lats that might be causing his arms to hang like that. Maybe some invisible pistols on his hips?

[MasterBlaster]

Or inexperience?

[MasterBlaster]

Looks like he shaved his legs too. Yuck.

Wouldn't you hate it if YOU morphed overnight like that?

:lol:

[treetx]

Yeah, and I see that it takes about 1/3 year of exercise for one to start wearing a douche-bag choker necklace.....

That would be way cooler if it had year #2...... with Steroids!!

[Ryan]

A guy I work with just finished 5 weeks of roids. He put on some size and 10-15 lbs regardless of the fact his training is low intensity and his diet sucks. Kind of annoying when I haven't missed more than 5 workouts in the past 3 years and he's walking around with his arms all stuck out the sides like one month of training chest and arms twice a week counts for anything. He's probably not going to like lifting without the juice and will go back to his once or twice a week and deflate while I laugh.

[Jonseredbred]

Badass.

[MasterBlaster]

Or, stupido.

[Ryan]

Something gained through hardwork is definitely more satisfying.

[Mr. Sir]

Easy come, easy go.

[treetx]

if you try to take something that you have not earned there is a penalty.......

In the case of roids, it will be the loss of your neck and penis... plus you'll deflate and likely have man boobs....

[Tree Reb]

Yep. At the fruit & veg market a while ago the girls were all oogling this young good looking blond guy with BIG arms, they didn't seem to know why I was grinning.

I'd watched a doco not long before about it. This guy was in it.

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[MasterBlaster]

That guy's an idiot.

[OTGBOSTON]

My buddy has a small part in the end of that tv special. He is part of a group on long island that is all natural, they used him as an example.

The big juice head on my tree crew finally flipped. He is acting all irrational. He filled out an injury report for yesterday and his injury is 'overworked':?

[MasterBlaster]

Man, I'm in love with my new trainer!!! (http://www.bodyrock.tv/)

[woodworkingboy]

She looks very fit. :D

[MasterBlaster]

She is PERFECT.

[CurSedVoyce]

Tight !

[treetx]

Wow!! Lordy, if you had 3 wishes, she would make you forget the other two!!!

[OTGBOSTON]

http://www.mdlinx.com/InternalMDLinx/newsl-article.cfm/2879098/?p...


something for you older dudes to consider;)

[MasterBlaster]

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[Ryan]

I've been off desserts and sweets for two weeks now and am feeling all the better for it. The first week I was even dreaming about eating cake.

[MasterBlaster]

Lordy, check out my boy Jay Cutler - he looks inhuman! Awesome!!!

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[woodworkingboy]

He must live in the gym.

[Ryan]

I'll always prefer the look of the "Arnold era" bodybuilders.

[Thor's Hammer]

I know what you mean Ryan. That guy looks pretty gross.

[MasterBlaster]

Not me. I like the inhuman superman look.

[MasterBlaster]

He must live in the gym.

Well, he IS a pro bodybuilder. Pumping iron pays the bills. :drink:

[lumberjack]

The muscles are cool, but his skin looks like shit.

[MasterBlaster]

That's because he's in contest shape = ripped to shreds. The judges wanna see muscle.

Any other time he'll be much smoother.

[lumberjack]

Na, the rippedness is cool enough, but his legs look black and his skin, from the neck down, looks unhealthy.

[MasterBlaster]

Again, I'll reinterate...

He's dieted himself down to contest condition, to win the contest.

80% of the time, he doesn't look like that.

[MasterBlaster]

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[lumberjack]

:roll: The black guy is whiter than your white boy.

[MasterBlaster]

:roll: Yea, that's real important.

[Paul B]

Wow. go Jay Cutler. what a difference between Jay and mr 16th place.

I remember your link about Jay beating Coleman a few years abck.

[Ryan]

Put those guys in the off season in street clothes and they almost appear "fat".

[MasterBlaster]

Yep, they smooth out for sure. You gotta eat a lot to make muscle. It's actually not healthy to stay that ripped all the time.

[OTGBOSTON]

My buddy eats 500grams of protein A DAY during competition season. ANd yes he does look 'fat' in street clothes when it isn't comp season.

And Carlos...those white boys get spray on tans for the comps...

[woodworkingboy]

How is flexibility when your muscles are huge like that?

[MasterBlaster]

It's a trade off, but it's not like they can't touch their toes.

[RIVERRAT]

I know what you mean Ryan. That guy looks pretty gross. Got to agree. He's a freak.

[MasterBlaster]

Hell yea he is!!! :thumbup:

[RIVERRAT]

Tweny years ago, I would go into McDonald's and order two Big Macs, one Filet-O-Fish, large fries and a large Dr. Pepper. Then I'd finish off with one of those little apple pies.

Can easily eat two 1' longs from Subway or Quizznos for lunch. I can knock off an 8 egg omelet, with 4 pcs. of toast, bowl or 2 of oatmeal & a couple of glasses of whole milk. With that I am snacking constantly while I work. I take pride in working 20 something wannabes into the dirt. Climbing or dragging brush.....I ain't making this chit up! Resting heart rate is below 50 most times I check it.

Don't understand how some one who climbs & does other tree related work can get fat.
But a lot of folks here don't work full days. Which I understand is why some choose to own their own bizz...so they can make that choice.

[Ryan]

I find most of the twenty somethings I work with are lazy and slow. Nobody takes pride in putting a hard day's work in. We have guys that will nap any chance they get regardless who can see them. Useless.

[OTGBOSTON]

Don't understand how some one who climbs & does other tree related work can get fat..

Because everyones metabolism is different...

[Blinky]

We have guys that will nap any chance they get regardless who can see them. Useless.

Those guys bug the shit out of me. I don't like working with guys who party so hard they don't get but a few hours sleep before they come in. Most times they're still halfway loaded or hungover.

[woodworkingboy]

Still drunk n the morning is not a good thing.

[wiley_p]

Still drunk n the morning is not a good thing.

Jay, it's way better than being hungover in the morning.;):evil:

[treetx]

Jeez, pissed up drunk climbers.

I had an English coworker pass out cold, sleeping after a night of booze and lots o cocaine.

Here in Texas I had a really nice guy come work for me..... he started to crash as he was still on methadone.... passed out cold in the tree.