Project Muscle Truck (again!)

[sotc]

aint lookin now

[MasterBlaster]

One should always be aware.

[sotc]

im aware that al was grossed, aware enough for me when that happens to a sailor;)

[Cobleskill]

That is one of the better South Parks. The 2% or cut off my penis is one of my favorites too.

[GASoline71]

Pretty bummed out right now... catastrophic failure of a rod bearing in the truck... I have built countless small block Chevy's and never had this happen... Either I overlooked something, or it was just a one in a million that the bearing was defective... not sure at this point.

Engine has to come back out. Hopefully caught it in time to only have the crank turned, and new bearings. Need to check the oil pump to make sure there is no trash in it. Not even 200 miles on the engine...

This could have not come at a worse time... I am scraping for cash as it is dealing with the bullshit I'm goin' through with lawyers with me ex-wife... This isn't gonna be super expensive, but it ain't gonna be cheap either... plus the time I have to put back in... X-mas right around the corner too... Holy cats...

When it rains it pours...

If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have any...

This sucks... :( I'll keep you guys posted.

Gary

[Paul B]

damn Gary, sorry to hear it!

Looking forward to hearing you have it back together :)

[Skwerl]

Damn, Gary. That sucks. :(

And I understand about the money thing, it's tight for all of us right now. Perhaps it might not be a bad idea to just set it aside until after the holidays, then address it with a fresh start in the new year.

But however you address it, I just hope it's not too much damage.

[GASoline71]

I have given some serious thought to that Brian... just to kinda "forget it" for a spell, and do it after all the shit blows over and wait for after X-mas...

But I need a truck, and a second vehicle. I am in the mindframe to "get it done" right now... so I might go with it.

My girls and I were out for a drive in it last night when it started knockin'. I knew what it was and limped it home... I was pretty bummed out, and the girls were tryin' to console me on it. My oldest had tears in her eyes and told me it would be okay. God bless her... she said to me, "Dad... it's okay, we can skip X-mas in December this year, and do it later..." Chokes me up just typing it...

Gary

[MasterBlaster]

Sorry to hear, Gary.

[GASoline71]

Well... it is what it is mang... whether it was my mistake or a defective product... I still gotta fix it.

Needed to vent a little... I'll have it back on the road... :)

Gary

[MasterBlaster]

THat's why I just say NO to mechanicing!

[woodworkingboy]

Bummer, Gary, you'se was looking good there for awhile.

[Bodean]

Bum Deal, Gary.

Hope the engine's not a complete wash, Sounds you know what you're doing.

Sound's like your girls' love for you is priceless, too.

[Reddog]

Gary,
You have some good girls.
Fix the truck when you can. Hope the damage is not to bad.

[sotc]

bummer man! glad the girls understand how you feel.

[stehansen]

Well, you got some good girls Gary. Good luck fixing the motor.

[Jonseredbred]

New crank and rods = STROKER

Just trying to cheer ya up with the possibilities.

[Cobleskill]

It is very cool your daughters care so much. I hope you get it going without any PIA.

You can't find much easier vehicle to work on. Be thankfull it's not one of the new POS they are making.

[sawinredneck]

Good kids Gary, really good kids!!! Lots to be thankful for there!

I went through this few years ago. Neighbor kid had a Camero he was putting motor after motor in. 383's. Kept spinning bearings in it.
I told him his builder was a moron after the fourth oneand I built the fith. I went throught this thing with a finetooth comb!! Mikedand plastigauged EVERYTHING that I could!
I tuned it out and had it running good. I go with the adage "break it in like you are going to run it" but he wouldn't stick his foot in it. I took it out and roasted it out, run it hard!
Three weeks later had a knock to it!
I don't know if it was bad bearings, Clevite, or crap in the crank from being turned, I honestly don't know.
Doesn't help much, but it's not just you.

[GASoline71]

Thanks you'se guys...

yeah my girls are pretty special... :love: They are my world and my happiness...

I hear ya Andy... it happens. I have had other things happen after a rebuild, but nothing this major. Everybody I know that has built their fair share has had something along this line happen to them sooner or later... mine was just later...

The "Muscle Truck" will live... I promise ya!

Gary

[fishhuntcutwood]

Sorry G. You'll kick this in the ass like you do everything else. And then give it time, and it'll be something you sit down with someone over a beer and say, "dammit to hell, one time I built this motor, had less than 200 miles on it and....."

You'll get it up and runnin' again.

Take care of them girls mang. They're takin' care of you.

[Frans]

I just bought a chevy 283 and am seeking timing specs for it. Anyone know?

Hey, sorry to hear about your truck, Gary.

[sawinredneck]

Most SBC's are happy around eight degs Frans. Some of the hotter motors like 13-14 degs.

[Frans]

Thanks

[squisher]

Damn Gary sorry to hear about that. Good luck with the re and re.

[Burnham]

Sad tale, Gary. Bummer of the first order.

Fix it and move on, what else is a man to do?

[GASoline71]

Damage was a little worse than I initially thought. :(

Pulled the engine out on Thursday... complete tear down. Headed over to the machine shop later today to see what is saveable and what is junk...

Seemed weird to pull a super clean engine with less than 100 miles on it out of a vehicle...

Gary

[Al Smith]

Pretty bummed out right now... catastrophic failure of a rod bearing in the truck... ...



Gary I just caught this myself .Don't feel pregnant ,it happened to me once on a four bolt 350 . I had failed to finish torquing one of the rods . Since that happened I have always marked them with a felt pen .

Chit happens ,lick your wounds and go on . People that don't screw up are the ones that don't do anything .The rest of us run into these rocks in the river every so often .;)

[GASoline71]

Yep... I am trudging forward Al... the block and main caps are okay... the rods are okay... the crank, cam, and lifters are shot.

Cylinder heads are okay too... but I need to have the block hot tanked (or baked), new cam bearings, and new oil gallery plugs, and new soft plugs installed.

I will have the Machine Shop do the cam bearings... I can install the plugs.

Gary

[Skwerl]

OK, you say the crank, cam and lifters are shot. How, exactly? Have you got any ideas as to what happened? 'Shot' as in bent and broken, or scored? Was it a lubrication issue?

[Jonseredbred]

Sounds like a wierd blow up?

[Al Smith]

A lot of thngs could have happened ,like a plugged oil galley . Usually if a small block throws a rod it will snap the cam and usually break the bottom out of the cylinder where that failure occurs but not every time .

Did it toss a rod bearing or spin it ?

Tanking the block should assure all the oil passages are clear ,good idea .It's also a good idea to have the shop install the cam bearing because they are a beech if you don't have the correct driver .

I haven't done a rebuild in years but when I did all the parts were slavered heavy with STP .If it didn't blow smoke for ten minutes after start up I worried I didn't use enough .:\:

[GASoline71]

Scored... bad. #1 & #2 rod journal had 1/16" ridge where #1 rod bearing spun... :(

What was figured to have happened was that the camshaft and lifters were failing during initial break-in due to lack of lubrication. Which in turn put a lot of trash in the oil which clogged up the oil pump. Oil pump no pumpy... bad ju-ju.

I used a different type of cam and lifter lube for this rebuild. One I have never used before. It was not some cheapy alternative stuff either. However when I contacted said manufacturer of lubricant... they have so many stipulations on what is done during the break-in prodedure, they basically cover their own ass for any type of failure. :X

Anyways... I'm not sure if any of you guys are aware of this but over the last 10 years, oil manufacturers have reduced the amount of zinc in motor oils. Mainly because the big 3 were bitchin' about the zinc causing problems with the newer more stringent emissions laws. They founded studies that said that the zinc was messing with O2 sensors, and catalytic converters. So they oil companies have slowly been taking zinc out of the oils... even diesel oils.

There is still zinc in the oils... just at an extremely low ratio. What does this mean in laymans terms? for newer engines it means nothing... because the newer engines are made with this in mind. What it means for older engines like mine... is that the zinc dithiophosphate (ZDDP) that used to be in oils to lubricate the flat tappet camshaft and lifters is not enough to maintain proper lubrication. So you have to take extra special precautions during engine rebuilds, and add additives to the oil at every oil change. General Motors, Ford, MOPAR, and some of the big name camshaft manufacturers all make the oil additives to run in older vehilcles.

A simple (but expensive) way to go about it... is to not use a flat tappet cam and lifter setup... going to a full roller cam and lifter setup would mean you don't have to worrry about the friction between the cam and tappet causing excessive wear since there is a roller there in stead of a flat tappet. However you are gonna be over $400 bucks into a roller setup. Hindsight being 20/20 I prolly should just save the money and do a full roller deal... but it's not an option right now.

So if any of you are driving older vehicles (Like pre-1990 or so) without roller cams and lifters... you ought to start looking into the ZDDP oil additives...

Sorry for the long winded post... but I figured i might as well explain it the best I could. :)

Gary

[Al Smith]

After thought .If that thing had a cast crank another thing could have happened .If they spun the crank in the wrong direction while grinding it will cause the fibers to form burrs .So small you can't see them .These little microscopic things will eat right through the babbit in the bearing shells .

To properly grind a crank it must be final lapped using fine lapping paper .Just a pass over a stone doesn't cut it ,no good ,it will fail . To test for burs ,rub a penny over the crank throws .If it pulls copper it has burrs . Engine building trivia 101 .;)

While I'm rambling ,a crankshaft is not the type cast iron most think it is .It is in fact nodular iron ,some call it "semi steel " .It machines entirely different that grey cast . This stuff will pull a semi chip if machined under great pressure and cutting speeds .It in essence pulls the carbides from the metal where they form exremely hard chips .Unlike regular cast which just forms powder about like coal dust . These carbide like materials are what cause the burrs .Machining trivia 101 .

[GASoline71]

Just a stock cast iron crank Al... I believe they are the Nodular Iron...

Gary

[fishhuntcutwood]

Dangit Gary. Keep us apprised brother.

[Al Smith]

Here is something else to ponder .Most older engines were set for 2.5-3.5 thou clearence on the mains/rods and ran 10w-30 oil . If somebody decided to regrind a precision fit for about a thou clearence like these newer engines ,not good .That is so tight you have to run 5w -20 or you won't pump the oil .

Another thing ,good oil pressure is of course always optimum .You get too much pressure on that tight of clearance it can "wash " the babbit right off the shells .Sounds odd maybe to most but it can and has happened although it usually takes more than a couple hundred miles .

All this info came from dear old departed Dad .He was engaged in auto engine research for years in his job and had seen it all .

[GASoline71]

Just so you guys know... I'm still pluggin' away at the truck... Should have the engine back in soon. Just a bad time of year with Xmas here and all... :)

Gary

[Skwerl]

You must have been reading my mind. I was just thinking about your truck 2 minutes ago. 8)

[GASoline71]

Great likes think a mind!!! :lol:

Gary

[GASoline71]

FINALLY!!! It warmed up around here to about 45 degrees, so I went out in the shop over the weekend and bolted everything up... and fired the truck up again.

Broke it in, and now have to get it on the road to seat the rings... No troubles so far. Seeing that I triple checked everything this time... but I'm still keeping my fingers crossed.

Man this has been one hell of an ordeal. Anyways... just thought I would post the progress...

:thumbup:

Gary

[Skwerl]

Glad to hear about it, Gary. :D How long until you show video of some burnouts? 8)

[MasterBlaster]

Good to hear, Gary! Get that sucker rolling!

[fishhuntcutwood]

SU-WHEAT!!!

[GASoline71]

Glad to hear about it, Gary. :D How long until you show video of some burnouts? 8)

It has an open diff so only one wheel spins... kinda embarrasing... so when I get the posi-traction or locker in the rear... I will post up some vids...

:)

That will be in the spring...

Gary

[Paul B]

You can still do a smoke show, just make sure you are the cool looking side of the truck when you take a pic :D

[GASoline71]

LMAO... Good idear Paully!!!

Gary

[Paul B]

I had a 75 firebird that was a one wheel wanderer back in the day ;) :shifty: :D before I got my posi Z28.

[GASoline71]

Just got my B-day present from my Dad... an Old School lookin' tach made by Sun Instruments... it will fit in perfect with the rat rod... :)

Gary

[Paul B]

ha! All you need now is a new shifter knob! :D

[Skwerl]

Cool deal!

Now we gotta find you a better looking shifter lever... ;)

Dammit Paul! Beat me to it by seconds! :lol:

[Mr. Sir]

It looks like the dog's been chewing on it. :/:

[GASoline71]

The funny thing about that knob... the guy that sold it to my buddy that I bought it from... said his dog used to stand on the seat and chew on the shift knob while he would drive around... he had replaced the knob 3 or 4 times... :lol:

Gary

[woodworkingboy]

Real old skool is putting the tach sticking up through the hood, outside the front window.

[CurSedVoyce]

How true how true ;)

[stehansen]

Is the engine back running again yet Gary?

[GASoline71]

Oh yeah Steve... it's runnin' and hauls ass...

I mounted the Tach today, but need to finish up the wiring tomorrow... then take it out for a test! :evil:

Gary

[Paul B]

AND replace the shifter knob... :P

[stehansen]

Awesome Gary.

[GASoline71]

Alright... went out today and was messin' around with a buddy of mine. Matt has a ridiculously fast 1972 Monte Carlo. We went for a little "drive" this afternoon, and had a ball... I built the 355 SBC in Matt's Monte... what a sweet ride, and it hauls ass too...

First vid... from my view driving... Matt passing me in his Monte...

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Second vid... is me passing Matt after a short while... with my window down... it sound like the truck is "cutting out"... but trust me... it's not. =)

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Third vid... pullin' in to a rest stop on south Whidbey Island... you can hear the cam in my truck, and the sound of Matt's wicked Monte too...

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This truck is awesome!!! :thumbup:

Gary

[CurSedVoyce]

Sweet! :D
I love my dad's 72... SO happy you got that sorted out Gary.:D

[stehansen]

Sweet!

[GASoline71]

Thanks mang!

Here are a few pics from our day...

Gary

[fishhuntcutwood]

Man Gary, that's Badazzz!!! Love the old muscle, and love that bodystyle. (The truck's, not your's you weirdo. :P:P:lol:)

Sweet vids too man. Makes me miss WA.

[CurSedVoyce]

One of my best buds in school, his dad bought a brand new 72 black monte.. I loved that car! Never did get to drive it though :(

Ohh boy did I date me in this post... HAHAHAHA

[Skwerl]

Wow, those are both a couple of sweet rides. They sound great, too. I think the cutting out sound may be from Youtube compressing the audio.

[blue]

Nice rides.
What sort of BHP is your truck making Gary?

[MasterBlaster]

Most excellent, Gary. Are you finished working on her?

[woodworkingboy]

That truck definitely has character. Very nice!

[Thor's Hammer]

Nice truck Gasman! As to the shifter knob, its got to be an 8 ball or a screaming skull :)

[Al Smith]

As to the shifter knob, its got to be an 8 ball or a screaming skull :)
A piston from a Briggs and Stratton or a beer keg tapper handle works well too if you're talking early old school American hot rodding . I imagine 350 Chevy engines will live on for the next 50 years or so in one form or another .

The Ford 8BA flatheads are at least that old and still can be found in limited numbers .

Good job on the Jimmy GAS .:thumbup:

[sotc]

Nice Gary! Glad you got het together again!

[GASoline71]

Matt and I are plannin' on a road trip to a big carshow over in Poulson, Montana in the Summer. I will have the only truck goin'... so I will be haulin' a lotta crap over there for everybody... So I have some stuff to do to get ready for a long haul like that...

New wheel bearings front and rear, new u-joints, and stuff like that...

BTW... My dad called me yesterday... he has this cool old shifter knob that he made in high school, that he had in his '50 Plymouth. That would be a cool nostalgic touch to the old beast... :)

Gary

[CurSedVoyce]

Hell yeah! Definite old school!

[GASoline71]

Nice rides.
What sort of BHP is your truck making Gary?

It's close to 400... maybe between 380 and 400... Matt's Monte is around 425. :)


Most excellent, Gary. Are you finished working on her?

Not by a long shot... I gots lots more to do... It's going to be an ongoing project. It needs new rocker panels, and has some rust hole in the floor tha need patching... Some spots inside the cab on the "A" pillars and in the kick panels are rusty too...

It will never be a "show" truck. I am going to be learnin' a lot about patch panels, and body work on this baby... :)

Gary

[blue]

It's close to 400... maybe between 380 and 400... Matt's Monte is around 425. :)





Gary

Cool, about the same as my Scoob, wanna race?8)

[GASoline71]

Yep... when I beat ya, I can haul your car back to your house for you in the back of the truck... :P

Are you still workin' on it Tim? or is it done? :)

Gary

[blue]

Yep... when I beat ya, I can haul your car back to your house for you in the back of the truck... :P

Are you still workin' on it Tim? or is it done? :)

Gary

Lack of funds at the moment:whine: If I had the cash it would be bored to 2.3l, closed deck block and a set of lumpy cams, that'd be good for about 5-550bhp, then a 6 speed box and coil-overs

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h103/treehack/aprilmeet002.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h103/treehack/v5sti007.jpg

[GASoline71]

I can only imagine that thing at speed... such a light car prolly dang near gets airborne! :)

Gary

[Skwerl]

Looks like a lotta motor stuffed under that little hood, Blue. :D

[stehansen]

That has to be way fasts Blue. Does it have all-wheel drive?

[Paul B]

Gary, nice vids amigo, still not the bumpa bumpa rumble idling vid... but I like the kick it down a gear and pass the dude vid. :)
Blue, that car looks like some dead heat in a small package, we have a few of the sTi's around here, I can hear them coming a few hundred meters away, that stovepipe exhaust has a distinct note to it...

[blue]

That has to be way fasts Blue. Does it have all-wheel drive?

Yep just a tad, 0-60, somewhere btween 4-4.5 8)
Yep again 4 wheel drive
Turbo is running 1.8bar on full boost, pulls like a mofo in3rd,4th and 5th.
It's mapped for virtually no boost in 1st to save the gearbox and about .7bar in second to control wheelspin

[Burnham]

Wowsers...pushes ya back in the seat, doesn't it :).

[Dave Shepard]

That's a lot of boost for a gasser, isn't it? I run up to 34 in my Cummins. (2.3 bar) I'd like to fire ring it and put twins on, and run about 9 bar.:/:

[blue]

Wowsers...pushes ya back in the seat, doesn't it :).

And removes facial hair of the unwary;)

[TheTreeWiseMen]

Tim you boy racer!:lol:

[squisher]

Some of us here feel the need for speed.:/:

No major mods, aftermarket intake, exhaust and no cats. Naturally aspirated.............for now.:D

[JONSEREDFAN6069]

Nice lookin and soundin truck Gary!!!! it sits perfect.:D

[sawinredneck]

Man, they must have lowered the standards, seems like they will let just about anybody in here now!:lol:

Welcome to the TH!

[GASoline71]

Nice lookin and soundin truck Gary!!!! it sits perfect.:D

Thanks dude! Welcome aboard mang! :)

Gary

[JONSEREDFAN6069]

Thanks dude! Welcome aboard mang! :)

Gary

thanx i apreciate it.

[MasterBlaster]

Welcome to the TreeHouse! Do you have a first name? Mine's Butch.

[JONSEREDFAN6069]

Welcome to the TreeHouse! Do you have a first name? Mine's Butch.

thanx Butch, my names Ritch

[Chisel Tooth]

Glad to have ya in the house Ritch. :thumbup:

[Bodean]

Welcome to the Treehouse, Ritch.

Gary, amazing truck. Great vids.
:beerchug:

[sawinredneck]

thanx Butch, my names Ritch

I think Ritch is scared of me:lol:
It's Andy here. We B mo' informal over here:lol:

[JONSEREDFAN6069]

I think Ritch is scared of me:lol:
It's Andy here. We B mo' informal over here:lol:

LOL, no i'm not scared of ya Andy.

[sawinredneck]

LOL, no i'm not scared of ya Andy.

Glad you made it back!:D

[MasterBlaster]

Update!!! :beer:

[GASoline71]

The ol' beast still hauls ass! :evil4:

I had to replace the voltage regulator and alternator. When they went they fried the battery too... but that was under warranty.

Haven't done much else to it. Now that I'm movin' in to a place with a decent garage with heat... I have some winter plans for the monster.

Short list:

Gonna lower it 2", Needs better radiator mounts, Overhaul transmission with new clutch packs and all the other innards, Some interior work, also update the ignition system (distributor and coil).

Gary

[MasterBlaster]

Now that I'm movin' in to a place with a decent garage with heat... I have some winter plans for the monster

:/:

[GASoline71]

Fo-sho my nergo! :pimp:

Gary

[olyman]

you talked about zddp--i noticed on another vw forum they were talking the same thing. seems its prevalent everywhere--when i get my 7.3 back together--ill def add a bunch to the crankcase to prevent what happened to you--thanks--

[GASoline71]

I got home from work at 10:30pm tonight... gettin' some last minute stuff done before headed out in the AM for a 3 day car show in Deming, WA. Gonna enter the rod in the "in progress", or "rat rod" category...

My buddy Matt that has a bad-ass 1972 Monte Carlo is goin' with me with his rod too. Pics will be up Sunday... :)

Gary

[Strikermike]

70-72 best years for the Monte Carlo IMOP

[MasterBlaster]

Heck yea, I loved em back then!

[GASoline71]

I built the small block in Matt's car. :) Glad we never had the same probs I did with my truck... ;)

Anyways... out the door on the way to the car show. Pics will follow in a couple of days!

Later!

Gary

[stehansen]

Cool Gary.

[GASoline71]

Car show pics...

First 4 pics are the rigs at our camping spot... last 2 are the truck, and Matt's Monte during the show... :)

Very fun show! :thumbup: Definately goin' back next year. The guy we were camping next to is gonna sell me a 1969 Chevy parts truck for a song... My new neighbors will love seein' a blue rusted hulk sittin' next to the garage with a tarp over it... :lol: I just want it for the rear trailing arms and rearend... Then the rest is goin' to the scrap yard.

Gary

[MasterBlaster]

Cool. The old stuff was the best, IMO.

[stehansen]

I'm a fan of the old also. Nice Gary.

[olyman]

gary. the holes on the top of the front of the box??? someone had stacks on it before???

[GASoline71]

They were for 2 auxilliary fuel tanks. There are 2 holes in the bed of the truck as well. Truck was ordered that way. Shows on the factory build sheet. It also has factory cruise control (vacuum actuated). There was a hand lever in the floorboards just in front of the drivers side of the seat where the driver could switch from the main tank, to either one of the aux. tanks.

The truck was used as a camper hauler... so the bed is pristine with no rust, and 'nary a dent in it.

Gary

[olyman]

They were for 2 auxilliary fuel tanks. There are 2 holes in the bed of the truck as well. Truck was ordered that way. Shows on the factory build sheet. It also has factory cruise control (vacuum actuated). There was a hand lever in the floorboards just in front of the drivers side of the seat where the driver could switch from the main tank, to either one of the aux. tanks.

The truck was used as a camper hauler... so the bed is pristine with no rust, and 'nary a dent in it.

Gary

hmmm. have never seen that before. cool--

[blue]

Found this on another forum:D
8)8)8)
http://thumbsnap.com/s/TfabF3QZ.jpg

http://thumbsnap.com/s/Lvr7yj1h.jpg

Could suprise a few other drivers me thinks;)

[MasterBlaster]

Dayum! :\:

[Paul B]

no shit there, a Viper motor in a beaten ride like that? As long as it can hook up its golden for pinks on a friday night! :D

[olyman]

whewwwwww, rocket sled!!!!!! goodbye competition!!!

[Cut4fun]

Now that is the slickest sleeper I have seen in a long long time.

Thanks for sharing.

[Ridgey]

What make and model is this one??Real nice ride BTW


http://gypoclimber.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23237&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1251093877

[Skwerl]

1972 Chevrolet Monte Carlo. The red one behind it looks like a Dodge Charger.

[Paul B]

the red one behind it (the charger) looks like an Impala, the purplish/maroon one to the right looks like a firebird and there are some blue and white cars that look like late 50's Chevs... :D

[GASoline71]

That is my buddy Matt's 1972 Monte... the small block in it is pretty wicked... :)

Gary

[Ridgey]

Whats done to the small block?Very clean looking car did it win any prizes at the show?

[GASoline71]

.030 over 350 (355), 10:1 hyper flat tops, nice lopy cam with a lot of duration and lift, roller rockers, some portwork to the heads, Edelbrock RPM Air gap manifold, blueprinted Holley carb, Hooker headers and a full 3 inch exhaust through Flowmaster 40 series mufflers.

It scoots along pretty good. There is a youtube video posted earlier in the thread of it passin' me on a country road... :)

Gary

[GASoline71]

I see a lot of this thread is gone... :)

Anyhoo... headed out today to attend the same 2 day car show I was at last year. So there will be new pics up...

http://calendar.bellinghamherald.com/deming-wa/events/show/136239785-elites-summer-fun-run-car-show

Any of you Washingtonians that are around the Deming area on Saturday or Sunday... stop by the Deming Logging Show grounds... that's where we'll be. :) Last year there were over 200 cars there... should be the same turnout this year...

Gary

[GASoline71]

Had to toss a few pics of the rod back in here... Plus I shot a picture of it's life today. Basically a storage box, and place to stack stuff around. I fold laundry on the hood since the washer and dryer are right in front of it. :lol:

This winter I plan on yarding the rearend out of it and installing 3.73 gears and an Eaton Posi-tracion unit. Maybe... just maybe... I'll do a rear drum to disc brake conversion on it too. :)

Gary

[TreeDimensional]

You better head up here and get the Studebaker!

[GASoline71]

HAHAHA! Ya know... if I had the room for another project... I'd be there in a heart beat mang!

Gary

[woodworkingboy]

That truck has come a long ways.

Always room for another project...at least unless you get married again.

[CurSedVoyce]

Awesome rides mang :thumbup:

You do nice work Gary.

[GASoline71]

New vid... :)

Gary

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[CurSedVoyce]

That is one beautiful truck and engine Gary.. Nice (ongoing) job mang :thumbup:

[canadiantreeman]

Nice truck...love that engine roarin!

[woodworkingboy]

Looks like your hard work payed off!

[MasterBlaster]

Now, sell it for big bucks and start your next build!!! :rockon:

[rskybiz]

Thats a nice one Gary!

[GASoline71]

Tanks choo guys! :)

Gary

[Bodean]

Sweet Jesuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus.

[GASoline71]

So I have been doin' a few projects on the Hot Rod...

My Dad bought me a line bending tool, and a double flare tool for X-mas. So I finally got it out and bent up a new fuel line to run from the Carter fuel pump to the Holley carb... here's waht turned out. I'm prett happy at how "factory" it looks. :)

Gary

[CurSedVoyce]

Sweet! Nice finished touch look to it :thumbup:
What a great gift!

[Burnham]

Rev it up, Gary!!!

[MasterBlaster]

That's bendtacular!!!

[Cobleskill]

Nice looking job. I got my son a bender like that for Christmas a couple years ago. It looks like it works well. No comment from my son yet.

How do you like the flaring tool? I bought one from NAPA years ago. KD. Not that good. One of my sons friends used it when I wasn't around and broke the little stub off. He replaced the whole set with some Chinese hunk of crap. I would like to trade it in, if possible. I looked at Craftsman and kinda liked how they were built. I think they were kinda pricey and I resisted. If they bend 3/8 and do a good job they must be pretty good. Happy with it?

[GASoline71]

The tubing bender is from Mac Tools. It's a quality product. Nice clean bends, and has marks for 45, 90, 135, and 180 degrees.

The Craftsman flare tool is the cats ass. Nice 45 degree flares. Cool part is you can clamp it in a vice for better stability. :)

Gary

[Dave Shepard]

Looks great Gary. I have a double flare kit from Blue Point. I don't care to use it because it means I'm laying under something fixing a fuel or brake line, but other than that, it's great.:lol:

[flushcut]

Ok 40 pages later I am all caught up. Sweet truck!!! Did you build the pumpkin yet, or did I miss that?

[GASoline71]

Rats... I didn't realize how many pics were lost out of this thread... I had linked a lot of pics from here to a couple of "truck" forums. They aren't there anymore...

Gary

[CurSedVoyce]

Just re read the entire thread over again.. You really are doing yourself proud on this truck Gary. Maybe I will get to done one myself someday. Sure does give me the itch reading about yours to build one though :D

[GASoline71]

Thanks Stephen... I put another vid up on youtube of it idling in the driveway. But this time I walked behind it..i so you can really hear the cam through the 3" exhaust.

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Gary

[MasterBlaster]

I had linked a lot of pics from here to a couple of "truck" forums.

Linking pics from here to another forum is one way to increase the server's bandwidth usage. I would ask ya'll to please not do that.

[GASoline71]

No sweat mang... I learned something new today. :)

Gary

[MasterBlaster]

Yea, that's hot-linking, not a good thing for a forum.

[flushcut]

Damn that is a nice sound :love4:

[GASoline71]

3 boxes showed up in the last week or so. 1 from Summit Racing, 1 from Randy's Ring & Pinion, and the other from Jeg's High Performance.

MSD 8.5mm Super Conductor plug wires, Eaton posi-traction rear carrier, Richmond 3.73 ring and pinion, Mr. Gasket vacuum canister, and a Yukon Gear 12-bolt rebuild kit with bearings and seals.

The rear end rebuild is gonna take a lotta work. One of my buds and I are gonna yard the rear end outta the truck and clean it up. Then I'll take it to my bro-in-law so he can rebuild it. I also have new drums, drum brakes, wheel cylinders, and brake hardware kits too.

I've put this rear end rebuild off for 3 years. Finally saved up the coin to get it done. :)

Oh... and Paully... those are some of your boxes behind all the parts! HAHA! :lol:

Gary

[flushcut]

Nice goodies.

[woodworkingboy]

Cool how the truck project keeps going on. What exactly does the new rear end give you, more positive engagement?

[GASoline71]

Exactly Jay... right now it is an "open" differential, where only one tire gets all the power. The posi-traction (or limited slip) has clutches in it that when under power engages both rear axles so you get positive engagement to both rear wheels instead of one.

Gary

[CurSedVoyce]

Gonna be sweet for sure Gary :thumbup:
Of course a new video will be in order as the sleeper awakens :D

[Skwerl]

As somebody who has been driving a 3.73 posi equipped vehicle for the past several hours, I can say that it ROCKS! :rockon:

[MasterBlaster]

Do go on!

[woodworkingboy]

Posi-traction is an old meaningful word from when growing up. Guys who had hot cars often had that type of rear end. The Beach Boys even sang about it, can you catch it?

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[Paul B]

Gary, get the power to the road. And dont crowd my gear with greazy truck parts eh? Only a week or so more and they will be outta your way.
Posi = how to kill a know it all teenager. At least almost, I put my Z-28 into a sui-slide with posi once (haha ok more than once), a know it all attitude and a spot of rain. did a 90 left, 90 right, 90 left and recovered it. Tagged both gravel shoulders with the rear wheels that day. Needed to stop and get out, paused to reflect on my actions, got new tires the next day, like that was the problem LOL!

[GASoline71]

Wires installed. :thumbup:

These were a kit that I had to cut to length and crimp on the termianls myself.

Gary

[Paul B]

those arent Moroso separators on MSD wires are they? *horrified*

[GASoline71]

LMAO... those are even cheaper Summit Racing wire seperators.

Gary

[Skwerl]

Gary!
Good to see you around, buddy. How's the hot rod running? :D

[Paul B]

Yeah, I got lucky enough to see the truck in person and hear it, how about a video Gary? She's a beaut!

[CurSedVoyce]

Put it up mang!!!

[sawinredneck]

The absolute best wires I ever found for a SBC with headers were Moroso blue max. The second best, you will laugh, the cheapo Orieliy's wires.

[GASoline71]

Hey guys... :)

I know I've been MIA for a spell. Just a lot goin on with the new gal, work, kids, and even more projects. Startin' to stockpile Holley carbs for rebuild and resale. :)

Thanks for bumpin' this thread Brian! :)

Over the winter I finally yarded the 12 bolt out of the rod and installed the Eaton Posi-traction and the 3.73 gears. I put on all new drum brake components, and also bought a complete Stainless Steel brake line kit that replaces every brake line in the truck. To top it off I added the sweet ass Moser aluminum diff cover. :)

[GASoline71]

I also upgraded the MSD ignition system with an MSD all digital 6AL with rev limiter. Pretty slick. I fabbed the mount for it too on the passenger side inner fenderwell.

Gary

[GASoline71]

Crappy cell phone pic when I was out for a drive with the g/f. :)

Gary

[Skwerl]

Sweet! I have a similar rear end cover/ girdle on the Mustang. I got it because I'm launching at 5K rpm on slicks and that will tend to rip the bearings out of the rear end, the girdle helps keep them in place.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d165/RockyJSquirrel/Mustang/IMG_1989.jpg

[CurSedVoyce]

Looks great Gary. I bet she bites the pavement now.
Hey, if you run across a Holley off a 390, let me know. I would rather get one from you and put some money in your pocket than some joe blow in the valley... I know I know.. it ain't Chebby... But it would be a nice upgrade on my F350 :D

[MasterBlaster]

Nice and clean! :rockon:

[GASoline71]

Sweet! I have a similar rear end cover/ girdle on the Mustang. I got it because I'm launching at 5K rpm on slicks and that will tend to rip the bearings out of the rear end, the girdle helps keep them in place.


Exactly why I am runnin' it as well Brian. The truck 12 bolts are a little weaker than the car 12 bolts, and the carrier bearings are know to deflect under a hard load. So the Moser unit with the preload adjusters on the bearing caps help out a lot.


Looks great Gary. I bet she bites the pavement now.
Hey, if you run across a Holley off a 390, let me know. I would rather get one from you and put some money in your pocket than some joe blow in the valley... I know I know.. it ain't Chebby... But it would be a nice upgrade on my F350 :D


Stephen... What year is the truck, and does it have an auto, or stickshift? Carbs are carbs... just a few minor differences in linkages and kickdowns...

Gary

[CurSedVoyce]

1980 auto 2wd. Has a 400 in it with a C4. I was told a carb of a 390 would work well with it.
Only has a 2bbl on it right now and really would work better on 4